CokeBear: CokeBearNewsFlash: Two Planes crash into WorldTradeCenter Twin Towers
jag: one into each?
CokeBear: yup
CokeBear: Holy Fucking Shit!!! Turn on TV!!
dorbel: simultaneously?
theophilae: a moment of prayer for the families of those killed might be in order..
dorbel: and they think fibs dice are weird
CokeBear: I would guess 200 dead
gammondude: i hear now suicide bombers
jasonj: a moment of prayer for all the gawkers who flock to their TVs
fond: suicide attack
CokeBear: yup
aki: are you guys serious?
lucacp: gg thx
CokeBear: NTSB dude on CNN says no way this is an accident
CokeBear: (This is going to be news for the next 6 months, remember that you heard it first on FIBS)
Karlos: Anyone 1-3?
aki: depends on who sat in this plane?
fond: both planes?
theophilae: gg
rogosin: pictures of the crash on www.bbc.co.uk
fond: 18 mins . between crashes
lucacp: i think the pilots were playing winfibs against each other
jasonj: who won?
jag: not the people in the buildings
lucacp: whe will never know
gammondude: ap reporting plane was hijacked b4 it crashed
lucacp: they are the real droppers
PaulaJones: I am a dropper.
gammondude: im glad u can find humor in such tradegy
jasonj: wouldn't you like to be a dropper too?
PaulaJones: dropping my ratings .....
jasonj: Drink Dr. Opper
fond: both were stolen from united airlines
jasonj: they've robbed me before....
dorbel: the line between tragedy and comedy is very fine
gammondude: i think thats a thin line between love and hate
dorbel: tragedy is when I slip on a banana skin
dorbel: comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die
jasonj: (that's true.)
dorbel: thousands of people will die today in accidents and by murder
dorbel: why is it worse in New York?
dorbel: because they all die at once?
rdd: wow dorbel unimpressed by flying two jet s into a building touch crowd
rdd: tough crowd
dorbel: its an amazing thing true, but I feel no grief , no
gammondude: too bad he wasnt in the bldg
jasonj: beautiful....
jasonj: time for a big group hug, eh?
dorbel: all the people in the building were wonderful people of course
jasonj: of course.
jasonj: think of the children....
fond: so u can judge who'd die
raindance: anyone here in NY right now?
dorbel: two years ago US planes were rocketing a European capital city, where was your grief then?
dorbel: I bet you were cheering in NY
fond: who me?
dorbel: Go Hawks, Go
quine: us planes rocket iraq daily
dorbel: yes
jasonj: (one was shot down today)
fond: u sound so poor
raindance: anyone on here in NY now?
quine: no, i just moved out of the urban death maze, ghouXXXXthough
lewscannon: i used to work in the world trade center
quine: me too
lewscannon: 105th floor
quine: actualy WFC
raindance: lews, is the building full at 8:42 in the morning ?
lewscannon: yep
raindance: that's what I thought
raindance: I wonder if the second building was fully evacuated 18 minutes after the first crash
lewscannon: i imagine that i know a lot of people who still work there
raindance: this will prove to show a heavy loss of life
lewscannon: i'm afraid so, if only from the smoke
lewscannon: we used to watch planes flying past us
luni: sorry sorry sorry petter
cooper: did you hear about the World Trade Center in NYC?
tom: old news
jasonj: where's that?
lewscannon: we're talking about it now
kacer: is it possible to connect via telnet ?
cooper: New York City, USA
lucacp: the first was a 767
rdd: they stopped the market
lewscannon: all roads in and out of nyc and the airports are closed
cooper: i heard that they have closed the airports, tunnels, etc.
lewscannon: and all firefighters in nyc are being called in
rdd: the dow is halted
lewscannon: they're evacuating lower manhattan
lucacp: the pentagon is on fire also
cooper: what!
lucacp: its on dutch tv
cooper: I haven't heard that yet
lucacp: its speculating they are not sure yet
cooper: ok
herestoyoukid: terriost attack
lucacp: for sure
cooper: that is what Bush is saying
herestoyoukid: how did they get passed the radar
cooper: yes, the pentagon is on fire
fond: phalestinian
lewscannon: they're commercial planes
fond: its announced now
lewscannon: i'm hearing that the first plane was hijacked from boston
lucacp: is it true about the pentagon
cooper: yes, the first one was
cooper: yes, it is true about the pentagon
herestoyoukid: aparantly im chatting on yahoo
herestoyoukid: world trade center
jasonj: pentagon
cooper: yes, WTC and the pentagon
cooper: but pres. bush is in florida
tom: cnn'S site is down
rdd: they are evacuating the white house thank god george W is never there
cooper: :-)
jasonj: holy smokes!
cooper: yes!!!
lewscannon: i've got confirmation of the pentagon
cooper: i have cnn on the tv
rdd: shit now i have to worry about incoming planes
herestoyoukid: im watching cnn now
herestoyoukid: they evacuated
cooper: where? i have the tv on in another room
herestoyoukid: theres a fire at the pentagon
cooper: any idea as to who and why yet?
fond: palestinians announced
cooper: for both locations?
Viper: I guess you Americans won't be so keen to bankroll the IRA now, In the UK we''ve had this for 30 years now.
fond: yes
fond: 3 buildings
CokeBear: Did the IRA ever do anything like this?
Viper: About 3,00 dead in total
Viper: many women and kids
lucacp: h
cooper: which location? NYC or Wash?
dorbel: the IRA have killed thousands over the years
CokeBear: All at once?
lucacp: they must fly a 767 on bush his head that would be a good thing
Viper: they peak at about 28
dorbel: one at a time? all at once? what's the difference?
herestoyoukid: they hijacked an army helicopter that crashed in to the buuilding
dorbel: the difference here is that they are americans I think
fond: they sez theres a third plane was for pentagon
fourth: thanks for all the invites - but I'm just waiting for Castanza to come back
fond: was a 757
herestoyoukid: world war three!!!!!!!
cooper: please, lets hope not!
piquant: is America at war ?? now pentagon hit
Viper: Where's the anti aircraft guns at the Pentagon?
cooper: who knows!
herestoyoukid: thats what im thinking
Viper: Air travel will never be the same that's for sure
herestoyoukid: no air traffic in the us
CokeBear: World War 3, and we don't know who the opponent is yet
jasonj: all airline traffic is stopped!
cooper: do you really think so?
jasonj: hope you weren't going anywhere today.
jasonj: FAA said so
herestoyoukid: yep
herestoyoukid: all airprts have been shut down
CokeBear: What about planes in the sky?
jasonj: probably heading for the nearest building
CokeBear: Do they just stop where they are, & hover in the air?
herestoyoukid: every tunnel into washington as been blocked
cooper: no, they have to land some where
jasonj: they certainly will
lucacp: i think monica lewinsky was giving head to the pilot
djroecher: can some just give a quick resumee on what has happened? I cant connect to any news site ....
CokeBear: Two planes crashed into World Trade Center Towers
jasonj: the web has been hit!
CokeBear: A bomb at the Pentagon
piquant: terrorist obviously ..but which group ?
dorbel: could all be a giant fibsspoof
cooper: terrorists have flown two planes in to each of the world trade centers in NYC and
CokeBear: No claim of responsibility
jasonj: I heard a claim
djroecher: are you serious about the bomb?
rogosin: No - photos on BBC.com TF1.com - it's true
herestoyoukid: jesus george bush just aid we wil not reat until we track down those that are responsbile
jasonj: it's a palestinian liberation organization
CokeBear: NEWS: The explosion at the pentagon was a plane crash
cooper: is it a bomb or a plane for the pentagon
herestoyoukid: plane
CokeBear: Plane
jasonj: amazing.
lewscannon: another plane
CokeBear: This is a co-ordinated attack on the ISA
CokeBear: er... USA
jasonj: just fucking amazing....
djroecher: serious about the pentagon?
herestoyoukid: oh well any one for a game may be our last
herestoyoukid: yes
jasonj: yes... pentagon is hit
CokeBear: I'm in Canada, nobody hates us enough to do this
jasonj: capitol building is evacuated
jasonj: west wing of the white house evacuated
herestoyoukid: two planes crashed into he world trade cener and 1 into he pentagon
cooper: treasury build. is also being evacuated
CokeBear: Americans insist on pissing off the whole world, this is what happens
dorbel: anti chech shirt terroists?
jasonj: amazing....
dorbel: Coke Bear hits the spot
jasonj: I was only pissing in the woods...
lewscannon: apparently a paestinian group has taken credit for this
lucacp: you are right coke bear
jasonj: hopefully no one flies into my house
rdd: oh no howard stern is off the air
jasonj: tragedy!!
lucacp: BEE GEES
jasonj: they've hit us where it hurts the most!
dorbel: lol
lucacp: white house is hit
dorbel: muted lol of course
herestoyoukid: is it white
cooper: was the white house hit?
rdd: would this be a bad time to call companies in that building looking for a job?
herestoyoukid: im iin australia everyone loves us
herestoyoukid: i hope
cooper: :-P)
rdd: uh oh sirens are going off in chicago
CokeBear: Cat in a tree?
CokeBear: or something bigger
herestoyoukid: they just recieved a threat that the terriots are going to bomb the whitehouse
fond: 4th. ! a shopping mall
fond: in W
lucacp: explosionin second tower
CokeBear: One of the World Trade Center Towers just collapsed
rdd: wow these guys weren't fucking around
cooper: completely?
herestoyoukid: watching it on ccn
fond: at NY
dorbel: are terriots responsible or teriosts? We should be told
rdd: what is a terioist?
CokeBear: Anonymous claim of responsibilty from Palestinian Org
herestoyoukid: someone that scares dorbel
fond: theres a 4th. !!! in NY
CokeBear: Denied by other members of that Org
cooper: where is the 4th?
fond: in NY
rdd: i wonder if i can get on tv if I say i did it
piquant: what this time fond ?
fond: a shopping mall
tom: any idea where I can find that infom online?
CokeBear: nope
Gerhard_Hofer: maybe a new explosion
cooper: as far as i know the news sites are still down
fond: this is unbeliavable!!!
tom: they are
rdd: i need a second
CokeBear: Sears Tower in Chicago has been evacuated
lucacp: i hope it hit puff daddy or p diddy or whatever he calles himself
Gerhard_Hofer: center tower collapses
CokeBear: "Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine"
fond: palestinians denied
spiffy: it's insane
CokeBear: uh huh, real Democratic of them
tom: any problems in Chicago?
CokeBear: Sears Tower evacuated
rdd: sorry
CokeBear: No booms yet
spiffy: the pentagon has been hit
lucacp: i think its an action from greenpeace
CokeBear: This was mega-coordinated...
Gerhard_Hofer: sell al what you have 3 war
spiffy: they have shut down DC
spiffy: and all air traffic, nationwide
fond: one of twins totally collapsed now
cooper: yes
spiffy: nothing comes, nothing goes
lucacp: is the pilot a dropper??
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: anyone in NYC?
CokeBear: Did the NASDAQ open today?
cooper: no, my brother in law is
jasonj: no trading
lucacp: the roof is on fire
lewscannon: yes, cb
cooper: he heard it in brooklyn heights
lucacp: wall street opens low today
Gerhard_Hofer: Lucap: no he play only with bombs
lewscannon: part of wtc1 has collapsed into a nother building
maaty: 3 pointer?
maaty: ich will spielen!!!!
lewscannon: i used to work there
rdd: wow my life doesnt' seem so bad now
CokeBear: All market trading closed today
cooper: r u in NYC?
lewscannon: yep
cooper: did you hear it?
lewscannon: no, i'm uptown
cooper: ok
CokeBear: Plane #4 hit the base of the south tower, causing it to collapse
CokeBear: Plane #3 hit the pentagon
lewscannon: but i know a few people who work on the 105th floor of the building :<
cooper: is it a definite on plane #4?
CokeBear: The south tower no longer exists
cooper: lews: I am very sorry about your friends
herestoyoukid: they just went on full scale war alert
lewscannon: i worked there from 1995-97
cooper: who did?
cooper: oh
herestoyoukid: america accoordingto cnn
fond: apocalips
cooper: i am starting to wonder about that...
CokeBear: Explosion on Capitol Hill
herestoyoukid: just herd it
CokeBear: Possible Plane Crash
lucacp: maybe the americans learn now they can not fuck around with the whole world
CokeBear: lucacp: not now
fond: so this was a lesson??
lucacp: i hope
lewscannon: no, unfortunately, this is a beginning
cooper: do you really thnk that?
fond: again... palestinias announce they were not
CokeBear: This attack required a large number of people, very co-ordinated...
cooper: yes, it had to be!
cooper: it has to be a larger group to do all of this!
fond: yes
rdd: someone please please alert superman
bedstefar: hej Barkeeper, venter pX at afslutte med AVRIL..........hvis det da ikke er en quitter
CokeBear: My guess would be Palestinians, but I would've thought that even they would be stupid enough to declare war on USA
herestoyoukid: maybe they were
CokeBear: (wouldn't)
Gerhard_Hofer: no explosion in capitol
Gerhard_Hofer: two streets behind
CokeBear: Who here in in NY or DC?
lewscannon: here, cb
CokeBear: How far from WTC?
lewscannon: i'm uptown, thank god
CokeBear: How do you co-ordinate a hijacking of 6 planes at the same time?
CokeBear: 737s and 767s
rdd: damn i wish howard stern was on
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: ?
fond: a track full w/bombs explode
Gerhard_Hofer: second tower fall
fond: infront of foreign min. building
jasonj: second tower is gone.
jasonj: the world trade center is history.
CokeBear: bummer
CokeBear: I wonder if they will be able to find the Black Boxes from those planes
CokeBear: Car Bomb at the State Dept (unconfirmed)
CokeBear: Another hijacking (unconfirmed)
fond: US is in war allert!!!
CokeBear: Source?
CokeBear: fond: Source?
fond: in TR news
CokeBear: TR?
fond: turkish
piquant: where is it unconfirmed hijacking ?
CokeBear: heading for Washington DC
onthego: my son in law lives in new york
fond: american president 's family gets in to air force one
onthego: lives across the madison square garden
fond: Us in war
piquant: has declared ???
fond: yes:(
CokeBear: on who?
CokeBear: When you declare war, don't you have to pick an opponent?
CokeBear: Who do they reply to?
fond: unknown
CokeBear: 747 down in Pennsylvania
CokeBear: Part of the Penatgon collapsed
fond: air force one on air
CokeBear: CanaryWharf Buildings in London, UK evacuated
SchmitZ: who's ready?
onthego: party time for the arabs
tokendo: Can't get on the internet, but we can play BG wooohooo
CokeBear: This is the place for news
fond: its like an sience fiction drama
CokeBear: I read a book once that played out a similar scenario
SchmitZ: yeah today is my birthday
onthego: pearl harbor all oner again
onthego: over
CokeBear: But at least Pearl Harbor we knew who to shoot back at
onthego: deport all palistimians
fond: can u believe palestinians can organize such big thing?
CokeBear: Osama bin Laden?
Gerhard_Hofer: a new plane attack pentagon
CokeBear: Is he buddies with Arafat?
fond: never happened such thing before!
fond: its not just to US, its to all world
csg: good morning fibsters
csg: anyone turned the tv on?
Gerhard_Hofer: i think all
csg: Muslims, what great people
fond: yes csg?
onthego: a religeon, can u believe?
csg: has anyone seen tv this morning?
CokeBear: dude, we've been talking about it here since 8:47
CokeBear: (EDT)
SSNAG: Does anyone wish to bet against me that the deathtoll from all this is going to be greater than 1500?
onthego: a sad day for the whole world
CokeBear: try 20,000
CokeBear: 50,000 people work in the World Trade Center
onthego: 50,000 work in trade center
SSNAG: Yeah thats what I fear but I can hope that god guarded some of the potential victims..........
CokeBear: Arafat has "condemned" these attacks
CokeBear: God?
CokeBear: LOL
Gerhard_Hofer: F 16 atacks plane who like to go to pentagon
CokeBear: How can you talk about god at a time like this?
fond: there was a plain through washington for 2 sec. in radar
SSNAG: easy if you don't believe in god then this act of war is something that is way to much for one nation to with stand..........
csg: Let's have a war
csg: American Jihad
CokeBear: CNN already has a name for the broadcast:
CokeBear: "America Under Attack"
csg: Pablo Escobar's people did this?
jasonj: NBC's .... TARGET: AMERICA
onthego: so is canada cokebear, the entire world is a effected
csg: I think America should go to the middle east and kick some ass
Draco: why are you guys so sure external forces are responsible? What about the nutters responsible for Oklahoma?
SSNAG: csg when a nation state wantingly murders the citizens of another nation a state of war exists. The United states of America is now at war with an unknown nation but at a guess Afganistan would be my prime suspect.
dice: here in Jamaica no problem mon ~~~~~~~~~~~
CokeBear: What if its Americans (a la Tim McVeigh)?
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: anyone claim resposibility yet?
CokeBear: not officially
dice: don is responsible
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: for the bombings?
CokeBear: NIHILIST
SSNAG: I heard that a Palenstinean group claimed responsibilitly
dice: don is responsible
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: and some country has declaired war???
dice: spliffs for all
csg: who could organize such a thing?
dice: don is responsible
SSNAG: an agent of the devil csg............
jasonj: I think it's C.H.I.M.P
csg: I just took a doodoo
jasonj: that's the best news I've heard all day.
fond: NASA evacuated
Gerhard_Hofer: Source ?
fond: turkish news
fond: reuters too
Gerhard_Hofer: thanks
UnLuckY: 5th plane has been spoted crashed in pensylvania...
tokendo: word of other airliners unnaccounted for
UnLuckY: BelgaNews
tokendo: I can't get on the internet to see Rueter's, AP, etc
fond: pentagon announced to US media... the plane that flies over washington will be shot in any case
aki: one pointer anyone?
Draco: stay here - better news feed than the BBC
fond: im stucked here like i cant log in again
Gerhard_Hofer: in Europe all american officiel building evacuated
tokendo: NBC: Day of Disaster lol
aki: not here in munich
UnLuckY: Smoke is coming out from W residence...
aki: i mean the evacuation
UnLuckY: Gelga news
Draco: W residence?
Draco: White House?
UnLuckY: White house?
UnLuckY: duno, they sais the President's residence
fond: american media sez ussame bin ladin....
fond: taliban gonna make an announcement soon
UnLuckY: BelgaNews says Ben Ladin is the only one who has the means of doing such an attack...
mimicarey: anyone for 1/3/5?
myzd: hi everyone, may God bless all people in USA!!!!!
Tremorchrist: Hello all, condolances to all my American Fibs friends :(
Honeygirl_ll: thx tremor and myzd
myzd: i actually had tears in my eyes when i saw the scene
odonto: come on...anyone...try the coming norwegian champion!
onthego: myzd, me too
Tremorchrist: Australia is thinking of you and hope you flick the purpetrators off the face of OUR earth !!
fond: american airlines announced 2 lost planes were w/150 passengers
UnLuckY: There is a lot of sadness and consternation in the world today
myzd: what on earth is going on taking thosands innocent peoples lives to satify their ridiculous .... whatever too upset
rdd: wow how is cnn.com down and fibs up?
Tremorchrist: ? perverted aggression. psychotic.
odonto: how many dead?
fond: passengers? ... all
myzd: more than 1000 now
odonto: ok
odonto: OSAMA BIN LADEN...u're gonna die for this.
aki: odonto, you figured it all out....
Tremorchrist: has denied it already
fond: report sez he was telling this 1 week ago to a newspaper in london
aki: odonto is as smart as fbi and cia together lol
odonto: told it 3 weeka ago.
fond: another plane crashed close to pitsbourg
Tremorchrist: !!
myzd: by the way where did panes end up at?
myzd: planes i mean
odonto: have to get home...watch the news...odonto, from oslo...norway...thx for this peaceful country...bye!)
fond: bye
SchmitZ: who's ready?
aki: what about the plane flying towards pentagon
Tremorchrist: not sure aki, still some missing
Trilobite: "no longer a threat", radio says
aki: does cnn h
myzd: i thought 8 were hijacked
Symba: one additional plane is still missing
Trilobite: I'm in Brooklyn, and fighter jets have recently soared over us
UnLuckY: US Ambassy and National Airport completely bucled up, here in Brussels...
Tremorchrist: Manhattan lockdown !
Trilobite: Bush says the "folks" who did this will be found
UnLuckY: Have to go, condolances to american friends & allies !
funny: all flight in Canadian airport canceled
fond: america ready to retaliation... to unknown....
gmorgan: OMG sorry u guys in America my sympathy is with ya's
Tremorchrist: here here gm
bluebeard: I really liked the WTC towers, and as for the number of fatalities... sheesh..
CokeBear: Another hijacked plane still in the air
gmorgan: where
CokeBear: Was Boston to L.A.
funny: around washing
funny: around washington
Tremorchrist: may it land safely
CokeBear: not likely
CokeBear: It will probably be shot down
Tremorchrist: fair call. hey cb
bluebeard: now there's a tough call
gmorgan: We all know revenge will happen soon enough
Tremorchrist: here's hoping, but not good enough!
gmorgan: exactly
bluebeard: it sounds like no one has a clue who's responsible
Megges: All good wishes to america from germany, We are shocked here.
CokeBear: Jihad
CokeBear: or Osama bin Laden
COS: very very sad
fond: taliban ambassador to pakistan condemned attacks
fond: this rules out ussame ben ladin
CokeBear: My Dad was in the US Consol in Toronto. They were evacuated by RCMP and guys with big guns.
funny: 747 boeing crashed in Somerset Pennsylvania
Trilobite: I'm too sick to laugh at that one
Trilobite: Palestinians in Jordan were shooting their guns in the air in triu mph
Draco: is that the same 747 as before or another one?
Tremorchrist: i feel sick too !
gmorgan: I'm an hour away from Toronto and there shuting alot down heere too
CokeBear: What?
Megges: I hope America will react prudently
Trilobite: I am in New York, the devastation in beyond description
gmorgan: my prays r with you all
Trilobite: Bush couldn't even find New York on a map
bluebeard: X
Tremorchrist: here here Trilobite !
urgu: Personally, I find all this rather immoral... How many casualties did US bombs cause in Serbia, Iraq, and so on?
Trilobite: Bush says the "Folks who did this should be investigated"
urgu: USA is not the centre of the world
gmorgan: it is today
Joe_Tamargo: Let us congratulate urgu on his sensitivity.
fond: american airbase in turkey in beta alarm now... so all others
Tremorchrist: urgu look up the term immoral ok
Draco: what does beta mean?
Megges: black day for the world today
fond: dont know
gmorgan: this is unbeleivable : ((
mat waves goodbye.
Joe_Tamargo: Beta is the letter B.
Draco: oh, such wit
Joe_Tamargo: I was serious.
fond: america closed border to mexico
patrija: beta is the second stage of security alert... alpha being the least: delta the highest
Draco: thank you
patrija: you're welcome
Tremorchrist: i think the world just clicked up a few notches in alert
Tremorchrist: for years to come
csg: who did it?
gmorgan: arms race will start all over agin
csg: America needs a national identity card
bluebeard: Bush's missile shield would have saved us!
Megges: we couldnt allow a few terrorist to stop a peace process for our race !!!
reima: I would like to express my outrage for what happened..lets hope things don't escalate to the verge of a global crisis.
Draco: As I said before, why are you so sure this wasn't the work of McVeighs buddies?
CokeBear: 1) They aren't into kamakazee
myzd: may we all pray for this tradegy!!
Tremorchrist: OMG ? 200 missing Ambo's & Firemen !
CokeBear: 2) They don't have the organization to hijack 6 planes simultaneously
myzd: i thought 8
CokeBear: 8? ok 8
mmteam waves goodbye.
Draco: possibly true, but who else does?
CokeBear: bin Laden
CokeBear: Arafat
fond: so orgnized
Draco: evidence?
csg: it is either kook americans, Pablo Escobar's friends or Muslims
gmorgan: what does this say about airport secruity
Tremorchrist: too early don't guess.
bluebeard: Arafat says he's shocked as much as everyone else
Draco: no way is this Arafat's work
CokeBear: of course he says that, if he didn't he'd be dead
aurel: not a single person is behind: it must be a whole logistic aof a state
CokeBear: Taliban?
onthego: i'll bet arafat knows the bastards that did it
Tremorchrist: Don't Guess !
Megges: arafat would stop all peace process, i dont think that he personally has something to do with this unbelieveable killing
guggus: u are right tremo
aurel: must have pilot knowledge, must have trainingcamps, must have technical support - ergo: a state is behind this terror
Tremorchrist: and psychotic en-masse....
Megges: i think it was a radical group of people not a state
Dutchie: hi all!
Mooncan: What a tradgedy....
aurel: well, not whole state but a group supported by one
Mooncan: Anyone here in NYC ?
Tremorchrist: hi dutchie
Dutchie: does anyone know any information phone number for the situation in NY? my girlfriend works in the WTC, and I am trying to get info...
aurel: NYC telefones are blocked
fond: Dutchie its almost impossible to reach now
aurel: only emergency communication
onthego: i got emil from ny
onthego: email
Brian_J: .... late riser , whats going on ????
Dutchie: me too... from other friends... but not from my gf... :(
aurel: Dutchie - where are you from?
Tremorchrist: OMG BJ turn on the TV, sept 11th 2001
CokeBear: Disney World has been evacuated
Dutchie: i am in the Netherlands... my gf is from - and in - NY though... she works (or should i say worked, given the fact that both collapsed) in tower 1, on the 53rd floor...
CokeBear: I'm so sorry man
bluebeard: me too... there was about 1/2 hour to evacuate I think
Tremorchrist: WTC no longer exists BJ, I'm so sorry too Dutchie, could have got out though !
nilla: Im very sorry too Dutchie!!
fond: im so sorry Dutchie
aurel: must be 40-50.000 dead
Tremorchrist: many have got out np
pixe: Dutchie she may have gotten out .. lots did in 60 in and under
Dutchie: could be less, aurel... about 20,000 work in the WTC... about 5,000 visitors on average...
Dutchie: that's what i'm hoping, pixe...
Tremorchrist: heard interview with male on 77th floor tower 1 !!
onthego: me too guchie, i'm crying damnit those who did this
Dutchie: thanks, Tremorchrist! that at least sounds good!
socksey: guessing is unproductive....best to hold tongue until true perpetrators are found out.
fond: right
Tide: Tremor, I saw that interview too, the guy that was on 77th floor said that the evacuation was fairly orderly
CokeBear: good news
Dutchie: guess i better play a game... it might distract my mind a bit...
Tremorchrist: exits were ok for some time yes
socksey: hug to everyone!
Dutchie: thanks, Tide! that sounds better than what i heard sofar!
Tatwo: geen telefoon zeker in america Dutchie???
Tide: good luck Dutchie
Dutchie: nope, Tatwo, all phones are down...
Tatwo: tjonge wat een ellende
csg: how did they get the pilot to fly the plane into the building?
CokeBear: Probably shot him and flew it themselves
Nashvilleman: Probably took over them selves
Tatwo: think so cokebear
socksey: auto pilot?
csg: how did they fly the plane so well?
csg: two direcet hits
bluebeard: microsoft flight simulator!
CokeBear: Are there terrorists who know how to fly planes?
socksey: crazy is not dumb
Tatwo: you bet Cokebear , lot of terrorists joined the army
csg: I was watching footage from the West Bank where the Palestinians are celebrating
csg: give me a gun I will go to Afganistan
Dutchie: only some, csg... not all!
csg: Dutchie, stop being so politically correct
dorbel: no you wouldnt csg
onthego: just got ph call from ny
onthego: its sporadic access to phones
Dutchie: csg, not politically correct... just realistic...
onthego: cell is out
csg: Dutchie, ergo all Palestinians are good, fuck you
socksey: my aunt in houston says that all of downtown houston is being evacuated
aurel: hey palestinians have problems as well, give solidarity to those who suffer
gmorgan: Dutchie gl brother and to everyone else GOD BLESS... later all
Tremorchrist: bye gm
Tremorchrist: whoever is behind it was the leader of a minority, not a people !
csg: Tremorchrist, lets talk about responsibility
The_Big_Duck: The Big Duck is FINE! Thank you for your concern!
CokeBear: Where are you?
csg: I am sure there were a minority of Germans that were against the Nazis
The_Big_Duck: On Long island, 50 miles away...
CokeBear: Can you see the smoke?
The_Big_Duck: No
The_Big_Duck: Both my sister and her hubby are in the City...they are holing up for the night with friends
Dutchie: are they ok, Duck?
CokeBear: bin Laden is denying responsibility
The_Big_Duck: Yep...they are fine. My bro-in-law..whom I love like a brother, was in the basement of teh building NEXT TO the Twin Towers
The_Big_Duck: Is that official?
funny: CBS news : more than thousand dead
The_Big_Duck: Easily north of 2,00 dead
Joe_Tamargo: I can see a tremendous pall of smoke from my bedroom window in the middle of Queens.
CokeBear: 50,000 people worked in the WTC
piquant: wheres he denying it from Packistan ?
The_Big_Duck: I was watching the second crash and both collapses live on TV...blew my fucking Duck brain
CokeBear: I'm shocked, but not suprised.
Tremorchrist: me too
fond: taliban is denying.... by pakistan tv
Mortsport: when they are found they will be eliminated, most likely islamic factions
piquant: the packis are hiding him
csg: Death To The Towelheads!
jag: I notice they're assuming it's islamic fundamentalists again, wrong last time
CokeBear: Could be Iraq, China...
dorbel: bravo csg
CokeBear: North Korea
Tremorchrist: why guess and offend, wait for proof and exterminate
The_Big_Duck: Yeah, but the methodology is NOT Militia style
Dutchie: i agree, Tremorchrist!
CokeBear: This is way beyond the resources of the Palestinians
Draco: hmmm what resources are needed other than organisation?
CokeBear: It takes alot to hijack a plane...
The_Big_Duck: Whoever pulled this off had pilots, exceptional planning, suicide bombers....very puzzling
CokeBear: to hijack 8 planes?
The_Big_Duck: Or Trained pilots
Mortsport: osama bin laden issued a warning 3 weeks ago that an unprecedented attack on american interests would be carried out in retaliation of US support of lsrael
Tremorchrist: extrordinarily successful terrorist act , lex luther brilliant and insane
Festful: some people are speculating if it was american extremists...any comment on that?
dorbel: I suspect the CIA
socksey: that would be a speculation after the ok city bombing
onthego: landing and take offs take skill not plying
Festful: did all planes lift from american airports?
socksey: how about that young boy who made it to moscow a few years ago....
jag: Russt? Bit different scenario
jag: how many of the planes have crashed? any still up?
Dutchie: my girlfriend just called... she was on the 13th fllooor when it happened - purely accidental...
Tremorchrist: 50 still up all accounted for i just heard
Tide: good news Dutchie
piquant: so happy for you Dutchie ;-))
reima: congrats dutchie!!
Tremorchrist: excellent Dutchie
griff: Hooray - thanks for telling us Dutch
fond: **S** Dutchie
Dutchie: thanks guys!
onthego: great dutchie
Dutchie: now lets hope many more got out!
socksey: :)
Tremorchrist: just heard "act of war" from US stateman for the first time
jag: statesman? not bush then
csg: what do we do if it was Bin Laden?
Tremorchrist: is pointing at bin laden, given know one else would dare !
fond: american airbase in turkey in delta alarm now
socksey: i'll bet
Tremorchrist: no "spokesperson" only
Mortsport: cruise missles first to Afghanistan. that is where he is hiding
dorbel: yeah, rocketing some camel drivers somewhere is a good plan
CokeBear: I've been thinking about it, and there is no way the pilots were alive at the time of the crash
CokeBear: All it would take is one terrorist on each plane, with a small gun, and flying skills...
CokeBear: Shoot the pilot & co-pilot, take over the plane, and crash it
Patti: And you don't need that much skill-- you only have to maneuver the plane, not land it.
Mortsport: this is far worse than Pearl Harbor
CokeBear: Anyone here ever flown a 737 or 767?
socksey: we are a larger target
dorbel: though not as bad as Hiroshima say
jag: did they train on Microsoft Flight Simulator
socksey: i've flown 747
govert: apparently not!
CokeBear: How hard is it to manuver, for a non-pilot?
govert: (the training)
Tremorchrist: i wonder if the pittsburg crash was a heroic (US) pilot ?
Patti: Probably anybody who has flown a light plane could fly a 747 well enough to hit the tower.
Mortsport: yes
Patti: You don't have to take off or land, and those are the hard parts.
Tremorchrist: at least for the last run in !
socksey: LOL....not as a pilot
Joe_Tamargo: They say it's a lot harder than driving a car. You have to keep the nose level.
jag: you'd still have to know certain controls - turn off autopilot etc
Dutchie: this is so weird... i am so happy about my gf... and still so sad about this happening...
pixe: Dutchie you heard from her?
CokeBear: She ok?
Patti: I think I could do it if I had to.
piquant: dutchie thats normal ;-)) and be happy you deserve to be and pray for those that lost lives and loved ones
Tremorchrist: you're aloud to be happy Dutchie
govert: what is the latest from Manhattan?
jag: were all the hijacked planes from the same airline? how many?
dice: Yankees still in 1st
CokeBear: 2 from United
CokeBear: 2 from AA
pixe: nothing .. just treating the wounded .. all out bound and in bound traffic is halted ..
jag: 2 hit WTC, 1 Pentagon, where else?
CokeBear: Pittburgh
piquant: White house 1
Trilobite: I am about six milesd from lower Manhattan, there have been fighter jets flyong overhead earlier & I can smell the horror clearly from here
griff: I suspect the Pittsburgh one was shot down....
jag: what would the target have been?
Trilobite: My Brother in Law who works nearby got out of the area by ferry, before the collapse
govert: White House?
CokeBear: This is surreal
griff: You got that right CB
CokeBear: President is at an AFB in Louisiana
Patti: Friend of mine is in DC right now; she and I are supposed to be going to London on Thursday.
Tremorchrist: i heard them interview tom clancy --- surreal.
CokeBear: Clancy has predicted shit like this for years
Trilobite: Bush has been brought to Shrevesport, LA
Tremorchrist: opening question was reguarding life imitating art !
jag: i'd hardly call clancy art
griff: I suspect you're not travelling Patti
Dutchie: it sound a lot like that book though, jag...
Patti: I suspect not, but who knows?
Tremorchrist: i agree , big generalisation
CokeBear: Taliban dude on CNN
onthego: r the airports in europe effected?
griff: BA have suspended all flights indefinitely
griff: To and from the US
govert: Scandinavian airlines aren't flying to the US.
pixe: someone just said the USS washington and Kenndy are in the water ..
Trilobite: only flights in US are Air Force
dice: and where is don
CokeBear: pixe: yup, headed for New York
govert: swedish airports still open
socksey: all commercial us flights suspended
griff: Where else would they be pixe ?
Trilobite: flights heading to US, diverted to Canada
dice: and where is don
CokeBear: I'm in London, Ontario, and planes are headed here
govert: like we're in the hotspot :-)
CokeBear: 747s normally don't land here, but the runways are long enough
govert: Jerusalem airport closed
Trilobite: It's odd the only person who can fly in US is Bush, & he's the most useless one
govert: LOL!
Trilobite: not a joke
jag: probably better more time he spends in the air
Trilobite: he couldn't find NY on a map
griff: Takes him off the suspect list then
dorbel: a Bush in the air is worth two on the ground
pixe: I wanta throw up ..
Trilobite: I've been crying all morning
socksey: go to the bathroom pixe
govert: sure.
quine: glad aXi XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Honeygirl_ll: lews u ok?
lewscannon: fine. hg. thx
Trilobite: Bush called the terrorists "theFOLKS who did this"
socksey: hey lews...hg :)
Honeygirl_ll: hi soxs
reima: NICE FOLKS indeed...
lewscannon: but i used to work in the wtc. a lot of people that i know are dead now :<
quine: i worked there until february
Honeygirl_ll: sorry lews
Tremorchrist: i'm sorry Lews
lewscannon: it's surreal
Trilobite: I've been there many times,& they had security you wouyldn't believe & fire drills, etc.
socksey: my sympathy lews :(
patrija: i hope those firedrills helped to save many lives
lewscannon: i'm hoping some people made it, but.....
mpopj: how far from wtc is Square Garden ? My daughter knows someone who is there.
Tremorchrist: many did Lews 77th fl tower 1 , one example
Trilobite: I saw some jumping out of the upper stories on tv
quine: any rep[orts on whether there were bombs inside or not?XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX i wonder what caused all those secondary blasts
Mortsport: people were jumping out the windows trying to escape the fires behind them. what is worse, the fire, or the fall
quine: square garden is too far away to be in any danger
mpopj: thanks quine
lewscannon: i'm hearing that there were bombs, too
Trilobite: MSG is over 3 miles north
Trilobite: no bomb, just the planes
rpo: not bombs, just strutural damage
lewscannon: i'm hearing about bombs on the news, trilobite
Trilobite: there was a bomb in Washington, I believe
orko: there was a car bomb in washington, i heard.
MaddDogg: on the plus side we can now go on a wholesale killing spree of terrorists
Trilobite: not in NYC
Trilobite: should we start with the terrorists who stole the election?
Tremorchrist: could change the world Maddog
onthego: there is no plus side to this
quine: it isn't clear what could have caused the secondary explosions, trilobyte. the towers don't have flammable materials inside....
lewscannon: yeah, in nyc. i'm watching the news here
MaddDogg: what an idiotic statement
dorbel: then why make it Maddog?
quine: not that would cause such an abrupt explosion... though of course the heat buildup could have cause a presure buildup
XXX: the planes were fully fueled for a cross country flight..that caused big explosions on impact..then there were gas leaks causing more explosions
Tremorchrist: aero fuel is serious shit!
mimbing: anyone for 3/5 ptr??
fourth waves goodbye.
govert: 3/5 anyone
Slampig: hello
govert: hello Slampig
govert: how is your corner of the world?
Slampig: mad as hell
govert: welcome :-(
Mooncan: petityoda is a dropper
Tremorchrist: seems irrelevant today
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: How many floors collapsed?
dorbel: good 'ol fibs, planes hitting buildings and they moan about droppers
Slampig: all of them
raindance: presumably all
pixe: both towers collapsed
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: unreal
raindance: well, it's been a long time since we've had war
socksey: lol@dorbel.....life goes on
Slampig: bin laden will pay
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: pretty tough to fight a war against this
raindance: perhaps not, this is the sort of event that can change the world
jag: thought theyd denied it
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: so you nail bin laden.... then someone else takes over
raindance: Oboe, this will be tracked down, probably we are now beyond conventional terrorist dealings as far as a US response
Tremorchrist: listening to initial state reactions i would be concerned if i lived in Afghanistan
coolpaula: heck.... i'd just GENERALLY be CONCERNED if i lived in Afganistan!
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: and you have to wonder how the terrorist will "top" this act?
Slampig: this would be like the US bombing the dome of the rock or Mecca, which should be considered
Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: whats next a mushroom cloud over LA or Paris?
Tremorchrist: they wont, here comes decades of big brother paranoia and hard lines
dorbel: WHAT Slampig is joking surely
coolpaula: and our govt gets all uppity about some poor afgani refugees
jasonj: The Latin Grammy's Have been postponed!!
Tremorchrist: yes coop , you think John will skulk home ?
pixe: baseball is postponed ..
Slampig: no i'm not joking
coolpaula: one hell of a barbeque for him!
dorbel: terrifying
Slampig: level iraq
Slampig: finish the job
jag: why? probably not them
pixe: its not them? who is was it?
dorbel: Jesus, and they wonder why anyone would bomb America
raindance: to all US citizens, please make a rendezvous point of contact with family, make sure u have plenty of cash on hand. Godspeed
Mortsport: probably funded by lraq
dice: fbi is looking for don
Festful: don....Don King?
Slampig: just look what we did to japan
Slampig: someone will pay
onthego: a spiral of hate
Mortsport: 2400 lost at Pearl Harbor
suz: and a spiral of violence
dorbel: bombing is wrong, so lets bomb 'em to hell
raindance: Days like today may be seminal events in history, godspeed, godspeed
Patti: WOuld someone explain this to me please: The Golden Gate Bridge is open to vehicles, but not to pedestrian traffic.
jag: its safer to drive in California than walk, thought everyone knew that
jasonj: that means you can drive across the bridge
socksey: maybe suicide breeds suicide....patti....
jasonj: but you can't walk across it.
raindance: 911
coolpaula: raindance,,, makin sense
Slampig: because it's the quickest way to get emergency services across the bay
Slampig: and evacuate people
Patti: But that's an argument for *closing* it-- then you have free access to it if you need it.
raindance: godspeed folks. I need to go out and get some cash on hand. May we see each other again sooner than later
dorbel: shut up raindance
socksey: thx cp :)
silent: anyone for a one pointer?
Mortsport: all planes were bound for CA, meaning they all had maximum fuel
jasonj: yep
jasonj: genius....
jasonj: evil, super genius.
govert: no fools flew thge flanes... that's for sure...
jasonj: that's true.
govert: and i can't type...
Zorba: note how less than one year GW Bush brought the world in a terrible state
silent: Only the biggest fool could be that evil
pinksharkmark: this is unreal... reads like a Robert Ludlum novel
Zorba: Texas = oil and weapons
coolpaula: you got it Zorba!
Mortsport: they think the Pittsburgh plane was headed for the white house
SallyAW: better the white house than the twin towers.
jasonj: that would have been incredible....
jasonj: just amazing...
pinksharkmark: oh, come on, now. I am certainly no fan of Bush, byt he didn't cause this
SallyAW: the white house is just a symbol, not the offices of 10s of 1000s of people
SallyAW: bush wasn't in DC he was in florida, he wouldn'thave been hurt
jasonj: you don't think the WTC was a symbol?
Zorba: bush lack of action in the middle-east didn't cause it but certainly it plays a role..
pinksharkmark: actually, thousands of people DO work in the White House
Mortsport: this could be retaliation for USA's attack on lraq under the senior Bush's administration
Nashvilleman: Yeah, lack of getting rid of palestinians and Iraq years ago, that lack of action
pinksharkmark: no... timing is wrong. That terrorist in the first WTC bombing was due to be sentenced tomorrow
jag: violence breeds violence
Mooncan: I have had 3 people drop on me 3 times in a row now !
SallyAW: scarey using US commercial flights with lots of fuel.
Nashvilleman: not fully confronting violence breeds violence
govert: I won't drop. game?
pinksharkmark: agreed, Nash. Mad dogs need to be destroyed. Cancers need to be excised.
Zorba: but who's the mad dog
jasonj: mad dog.
pinksharkmark: too many of them, Zorba... that's the problem
Zorba: america also behaves like a mad dog in some countries..
pinksharkmark: Iraq, Palestine, Libya... Afghanistan...
jag: but why are these people so enraged with the us that they'd even contemplate such actions?
dorbel: yes, why?
pinksharkmark: religious fanatics don't need a reason
Tremorchrist: can you believe it, a god !
jag: everyone needs a reason
pinksharkmark: their reason is that America is The Great Satan
dorbel: a r4easonable point of view from som eplaces
Zorba: i think it's got nothing to do with religion, just with america being anti-arabic
CokeBear: There is *no* evidence that the perps are arabs. Remember Oklahoma?
Zorba: yeha but that guy is dead
pinksharkmark: depends which Arabs. America is certainly not anti-Saudi, or anti-Egypt
Mortsport: contempt is a very poor reason, but it is probably the underlying cause
pinksharkmark: this wasn't the act of a lone nutbar, CB. This took planning, and trememndous resources. It was a group of suicidal fanatics... hence religious fanatics
Mortsport: indeed
pinksharkmark: those planes were PILOTED. Kamikaze attacks, in every sense of the word.
Mortsport: middle east without a doubt
jag: but if you don't make the effort to understand what drives such people to such actions you're condemned to repeat
pinksharkmark: of course
CokeBear: It doesn't take much skill to fly a plane into a building. Hard part of flying is taking off and landing.
Zorba: right jag..
CokeBear: Each plane only needed one guy, with one small gun.
govert: flying under the radar....
CokeBear: Kill pilots, crash plane. Very simple plan
pinksharkmark: it takes a lot of planning to successfully hijack several planes simultaneously
Zorba: I wonder what MS-Flightsimulator's role in this whole thing is...
govert: flying off route.....
CokeBear: Blame Microsoft!
govert: hijacking WITHOUT the crew hitting the alarm button...
CokeBear: Shoot both from behind before they know whats going on.
CokeBear: pop pop
CokeBear: all done
govert: AND bust the door before that...
dorbel: its a terrible day for sure, but you cant you "kill the fanatics" guys get it?
Mortsport: bin laden owned aircraft to train kamikaze pilots for such an attack
Zorba: CB seems to have inside info...arrest him
CokeBear: Many pilots leave the door open
dorbel: cant you make the connection?
Tremorchrist: they'll find the black boxes, then we'll know
dorbel: rockets in baghdad?
govert: sure, but this is not a fool's action
CokeBear: Last time I flew, I visited the CP. Said hi to the captain
dorbel: rockets in Belgrade?
dorbel: America is a world terrorist
CokeBear: All you hear on the Black Boxes is "Bang, Bang", then nothing for several minutes, then crash
dorbel: this terrible thing is what follows
Tremorchrist: i bet the kamakhazis say more than that coke
govert: not these...
Zorba: anyway, time for a real president. Is there a way for new elections?
Mooncan: What does it mean when you play an unlimited match ?
Mortsport: no rating points
jag: it never ends, people use it to play for money
CokeBear: Of all the Presedential Candidates of the last 10 years, who would you most like to be running the country right now?
Mortsport: shut up cokebore
dice: Hillary
Zorba: :)
Tremorchrist: goodbye all, PEACE !
Honeygirl_ll: bye tc
suzi: Hi Zorba!
suzi: Hi Mort!
Zorba: I wish there would've been another president BEFORE this happened...
Zorba: hiya suzi! :)
Mortsport: hi suzi
pammie: Why is that
Mortsport: l think saddam has a hand in this
Zorba: bush has done virtually nothing about the situation in the ME
pammie: What does it matter what president is in office
govert: (pammie) he is the spokesperson of the country?
Zorba: israel in war with the palestinians, bush waves from his ranch and talks with his cowsz
pammie: well then you get of your ass and do something
Zorba: the guy is a complete nitwit
pammie: maybe But I don't believe He is going to stand by..
pammie: No one person can stop a war
Zorba: the damage is already done
pammie: all sides have to agree to stop
Zorba: I think buish should realize that you can't be world power #1 without taking your responsibilities WORLDwide
govert: so, HXXXer couldn't stop WW2 if he wanted?
pammie: He started it..
Zorba: well, Staling might have started it a little later...who knows
pammie: He wanted it to happen as with any war
govert: sure
Mortsport: war has been declared against the US. those responsible will be hunted down, hopefully with the help of the world community
jag: Mooncan, petityoda didn't drop on me
Zorba: and colonialism might also be called a world war
jag: but he has left the building
govert: maybe nobody can stop a war, but it is my firm belief that anybody can affect it.
pammie: I agree govert
pammie: unfourtantely wars will happen..
Zorba: yep...especially the head of the world power #1
jag: don't forget, many people think the Wests economic and political behaviour is a form of warfare
CokeBear: There is not a single commercial airplane in flight in the USA right now. This is unprecidented in Aviation history
pammie: but is it an excuse to kill thousands of innocent people
govert: GPL, the OTHER global threat to capitalizm
Zorba: Gnu Public Licesne? lol
pammie: just because I disagree with you about bush doesn't give Me license to go and shoot Zorba
govert: :)
jag: thousands of innocents died in almost every war last century
pammie: yes
Zorba: in the eyes of some other people, the USA also causes thousands of deaths.
pammie: you are right..
pammie: and I hate seeing that in other countries as well.
Zorba: the problem is that US politics <> USA's citizens
pammie: I take it you are not american Zorba
Zorba: right
pammie: what if it was in your country
pammie: it happened to your people
Zorba: my country is not a world power
pammie: innocent
govert: and, also in the eyes of others, the population growth in the US is the planet's largest resource problem...
jag: and the actions of a minority of fanatics <> those of every muslim or whatever
pammie: so
onthego: zorba wears i turbin
mimbing: anyone for 3/5 ptr??
pammie: So it could happen
jag: Sikhs wear turbans
govert: engineers wear turbines
Zorba: this wouldn't happen to a country that;s not a wolrd-power
pammie: Some person that holds a grudge against your country comes in and symatticay bombs each major city in your country
Zorba: so I cant comment on it happening to the NL
pammie: It could happen Zorba
Zorba: this is not about a "grudge" against the USA
Zorba: this is about USA power play
pammie: I don't know how you can be so cold about people dying .. it being a american or a turkish rebel
Zorba: I'm not cold, I'm discussing possible casues
pammie: but you are putting it all on the us though.. granted this country isnt perfect.. what country is.
govert: He isn't
Zorba: how many USA people mourned about the tens of thousands of victims in Iraq after Desert Storm?
Mortsport: ya know it's so easy to blame someone else, but if you do the crime you will pay
pammie: You would be surprised..
Zorba: I dont put it all on the USA. The terrorists are responsible
Zorba: I'm just analyzing USA's role in the world and if it might have something to do with this
govert: hmm. i wonder...
Zorba: :/
Mortsport: if you think the lraqi "population" was innocent in the kuwaiti takeover, you are saddly mistaken
Zorba: most Iraqi soldiers were as "innocent" as US soldiers
pammie: we as humans have responsbility for our actions
Mortsport: if they disagrred with saddams actions, there would of been an overthrow of his regime. and that never happened
govert: which of course goes for Germany as well...
Zorba: like "overtthrowing a regime" is so easy
Mortsport: nobody said it was
Zorba: so your argument doesnt hold then
Mortsport: but the attempt would of been supported
Zorba: even the USA couldnt kill Saddam
Mortsport: oh yes they could of
jag: not when the gov controls the media, the innocent people had no real understanding of the situation
Mortsport: schwartzkopf was that close
Mortsport: he would of had no problem at all
Mortsport: he was right there
Zorba: a whole lot of Iraqi soldiers surrendered.. says it all. Saddam is not supported, he's just a tyran
jag: would you risk your life, the lives of all your friends and family on the offchance that things may be better under a different regime?
Mortsport: Bush cancelled it
govert: whay are we doing? analyzing people's guilt in wars? get a grip...
Mortsport: LOL, they surrendered because they were beaten
Mortsport: who the hell is analizing guilt
Zorba: did the US soldiers in Vietnam do that as well then Mort?
govert: well, I think I was, at least. (trying to get a grip...)
onthego: they r prob dancing in the streets of kabul
pammie: sorry Zobra if I offened you..
Mortsport: guilt is having remorse for something you did wrong
Zorba: thinking Iraqi people are evil and against the USA, is just as stupid as Arabians calling the USA and it's citizens evil
pammie: IT isnt all the people though
pammie: it is the ones that can do those things that are.
Mortsport: zorba, it sounds like you're an lraqi sympathizer
Zorba: then read again mort
Alstrup waves goodbye.
Zorba: people of different countries aren't against each other, it's their leaders
govert: and the leaders play out the people against each other...
Mortsport: the USA is made up of people from different countries
Zorba: right... and sadly, they succeed with 75% of the people
govert: doesn't matter
Zorba: many people like the idea of simplifying the enemy
Zorba: it unites
pammie: to have a belief is one thing but to use that belief to kill people is dead wrong
jag: dehumanisation its such a big word
jag: been around since richard the third
jag: human league
Mortsport: problems stem from other countries that DON'T have freedom for their populations
Zorba: all religions kill(ed) people
Mortsport: people gravitate to the USA to escape this
govert: please, leave the word religion out...
pammie: But it doesn't make it right.
govert: or let's say governmentally supported religion, and I agree, Zorba
jag: problems stem from countries (trying to) impose their viewpoints on other countries
Deer: Hiyas!
Zorba: sounds right jag..
Zorba: hi Deer!
dice: fbi is looking for don
Zorba: lol
Deer: Hey Zorbie :)
Mortsport: is freedom and democracy an imposition?
govert: tricky.
Deer: Im still waiting to hear if 4 relatives who work at WTC are alive
Zorba: how about the war on drugs...
Mortsport: l sincerely hope not
jag: it is if you don't believe democracy is the best form of government
jag: and freedom can be relative
Zorba: i'm sorry deer :(
govert: our heart's are with you, Deer
Deer: we're hopeful.... that they started late.
pammie: and Prayers Hun..
Deer: Ahh this is the the slap in the face to get our attention, I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better
jag: hope you get the good news soon deer
TheIrishman: my sympathies to all in NY and the USA
Deer: Hiya TheIrish :)
TheIrishman: hi deer
pammie: I don't have any family there and can never imagine if I did
Deer: thanks everyone, alot of our prayers go out to everyone, from all countries involved
Zorba: I second that, irishman
govert: amen
govert: what's the latest from the US?
Deer: I heard, 4 planes crashed, 4 still out there somewhere
Zorba: don claims attacks
pammie: I think they are all accounted for now Deer
Deer: ahh okay
pammie: I hope so anyway
Deer: conservative estimate of deaths in NYC is over 10,000
TheIrishman: did the other 4 land or crash?
Deer: I don't know
pammie: well those two buildings along held 50 thousand workers
Deer: that's true, but who knows when they all start their shifts
pammie: not counting the vistors
pammie: there were five planes in all
Deer: average day, estimated people in building... 150.000
pammie: two into the trade center
pammie: one in the Pentagon
Deer: two in WTC, one in Penta, one near Pittsburgh and one???
pammie: and two others that crashed
Deer: ohhhhh :(
pammie: not sure where the other one was
Deer: okay so three unaccounted for, that were of the 8 hijacked this morning
dice: fbi is looking for don
jag: got to go and pick up gf from Heathrow, strangely her flight from nice was delayed
pammie: they said there was 8.. I missed that
Deer: Jag, thank god huh?
dice: fbi looking for nihi
Mortsport: dice, get a life
pammie: Well going to go and watch alittle more..
Deer: eek SHARK!!!
Zorba: cia looking for dice
Deer: pammie, let us know what's up?
pinksharkmark: oh, no! A scary deer!
pammie: Zorba am really sorry if I did offend You..
jag: best wishes to everyone
jag waves goodbye.
Deer: you too jag :)
govert: MI5 looking for Zorba
Zorba: you didn't pammie :) I'm not even sure what you're talkling about act. :-)
Zorba: KGB looking for new personnel
govert: and he scores.
Zorba: well...whatever happens...digestion goes on..time to fill the stomach, bye
Zorba waves goodbye.
govert: bye
Zorba: bye govert
Deer: Bye Zorba!
Mortsport: in Moscow, President Vladimir Putin sent a telegram to U.S. President George W. Bush. "Dear
CokeBear: "Dear...
CokeBear: ?
rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!
rolfmuller: BG for worldpeace!!!!!
LarryFerrier: Boy, that's hilarious
rolfmuller: no more war!!!
Mortsport: war has already been waged against american civilians
Mortsport: sadly
rolfmuller: sure, and I'm feeling very sad about it
rolfmuller: but striking back will not bring back lives
Roll_N: It may save future lives
LarryFerrier: too bad one of those airliners didn't hit your house, rolf
Mortsport: but it could save lives in the future, by saying this WILL NOT be tolerated
TheIrishman: bbc are saying 4 planes - abc and cnn saying 8 - who is right?
Mortsport: 4
TheIrishman: k
rolfmuller: force were never a permanent solution
Mortsport: 2 at wtc, 1 at pentagon, and last 1 crashed in pittsburgh, presumably headed for the white house
rolfmuller: I repeat, I'm feeling very sad about all the lives that have been taken away by this way...
LarryFerrier: rolf,if the airliner had killed your family, i'll bet you wouldn't be talking out of your ass
Mortsport: easy now
SallyAW: freaky using commercial planes for this...
CokeBear: Iraq
LarryFerrier: Canada
SallyAW: canada?
LarryFerrier: they are jealous
rolfmuller: I'm against violence at all
Mortsport: indeed
Roll_N: I have a feeling someone is gonna find out that when you pull the dogs tail you usually get bit
SallyAW: Blame canada
rolfmuller: even if it would have killed me familiy
Mortsport: heaven forbid, enough is enough
rolfmuller: no live taken away would bring back a family member
rolfmuller: with violence
SallyAW: gg
Roll_N: so what are you saying, whoever is responsible should get a time out ?
mimbing: 3/5 ptr ???
LarryFerrier: lol, RollN
LarryFerrier: bad, bad, boys...you hijacked airliners
rolfmuller: what I'm saying is, that this shit in the far east needs a permant a definit solution, no more victims for both side!!!!!
LarryFerrier: thanks, rolf...go back to sleep now
SallyAW: how do you stop all this racial and religious zealousness
SallyAW: on both sides,
Mortsport: you don't see religious strife in the US, therefore it is somewhat hard to comprehend
LarryFerrier: somewhat?
rolfmuller: I'm from switzerland, but I'm living in a country, where you find an arabian, a jude, a budist, a catolic, a black and a white person lives in the same building and everybody tolerates each other and each others ideas and reliogions
Patrice_France: Looks more like Wako or Oklahoma city than religious war !
LarryFerrier: huh?
TheIrishman: I agree Patrice
rolfmuller: we need god, and not religion, when a religion use force, the primar rule is not compreended: love
LarryFerrier: last time I checked, there are explosions in religious wars
rolfmuller: don't mind wich religion
Mortsport: l think they will find this to be an islamic attack
Patrice_France: Too technologic, looks like a sect or a KKK's act.
LarryFerrier: hey, rolf the genius, why don't you try to explain your theory to these nuts
mimbing: anyone for a 3-5 ptr???
SallyAW: the religious leaders are not going to give up their power
SallyAW: you can never stop people for hating.
SallyAW: from hating. people will always hate and kill
Patrice_France: America fighting america ?
Mortsport: seems to me islams think their religion is the only religion that counts in this world
LarryFerrier: Patrice, are you high?
grillbill: all religions do that mort
grillbill: at some point in their development
Mortsport: yet, if they are the ones responsible, they have no respect for human life
Patrice_France: Only1493.11
Mortsport: not all grillbill
LarryFerrier: those Buddhists love blowing shit up
grillbill: oh? I think so.. christianity did it once
grillbill: remember the crusades?
Mortsport: and then we evolve
rolfmuller: see? god instead of religion is the only solution....look at Belfast, both side are crazy!!!
grillbill: it's part of an evolution only problem is they are evolving in a climate of automtic weapons and mass terrorism
Mortsport: yes
rolfmuller: that's why I say, that war is not the solution, grillbill, they are fanatic and won't hesitate to make use from this weapons
rolfmuller: they have less to loose than we
LarryFerrier: so we should sit back and take it, eh, rolfy?
rolfmuller: they belive, that they are going to paradise, if they die in a war or in an act of terrorism
Mortsport: the world will change it's views on terrorism after today and sweeping worldwide changes will be felt
rolfmuller: Larry, do you have family, right?
grillbill: could forse the american hand in terms of counter terrorism around the world though
LarryFerrier: answer my question first, rolfy
rolfmuller: do you think, that if one more member of your family is dying in war, you gonna be happier? even if he hits 10 arabians first?
LarryFerrier: answer my question first
rolfmuller: I did
rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!
LarryFerrier: no you didn't
rolfmuller: violence is not a defintiv solution
rolfmuller: american soldier did die in Irak too....
LarryFerrier: and?
rolfmuller: there is no winner in a war
LarryFerrier: is Iraq as much of a threat?
rolfmuller: if you loose a child in a war, there is no reason that makes it good for it
LarryFerrier: you ignore human nature
rolfmuller: sorry, I didn't understand
Roll_N: I think alot of people would consider that there was a winner in World War 2... for the good of all humanity
Roll_N: and WW1
rolfmuller: ok, but how many loser did you had? see the pictures of holocaust
grillbill: 'blessed are the victors for they shall be called peacemakers'
LarryFerrier: you can't let fanatics skip and dance around the world
jasonj: blessed are the pacemakers
LarryFerrier: gerry and the pacemakers?
Mortsport: war doesn't determine who's right, war determines who's left. and freedom and democracy will ALWAYS prevail
rolfmuller: I agree, but you won't teach them with force
LarryFerrier: oh, ok, rolfy, let's teach them with candy and dog biscuits
Mortsport: let's remember this is a terrorist act
LarryFerrier: sit...roll over...
Mortsport: a cowardly terrorist act
grillbill: hopefully america will act on it
LarryFerrier: bad doggy
Mortsport: the world will act on it
rolfmuller: yes it was covard
LarryFerrier: look up the word "ignorant" in your dictionary, rolfy
rolfmuller: all the nations need to be together in this moment and punish who needs to be punished
simpsons: agree
LarryFerrier: how should we punish them? how about tickling?
grillbill: eyes are being opened as to america's role in the world
simpsons: A-bomb
LarryFerrier: how should we punish them, rolf?
Mortsport: l don't think the abomb will ever be used again
jasonj: I think it will be used tonight.
LarryFerrier: maybe you should look up "Ignorant" as well, Mort
LarryFerrier: pull your head out of the sand
Mortsport: so what are YOU saying Larry?
LarryFerrier: we're lucky they didn't use nukes instead of airliners, genius
LarryFerrier: you think they nutcases won't figure it out?
LarryFerrier: these
rolfmuller: sorry, got desconnected
rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!
LarryFerrier: that's ok rolf...we didn't miss you
rolfmuller: ok, sorry, for having another opinion
grillbill: what's ur opinion rolf?
rolfmuller: about? I was desconnected
grillbill: about all of this
LarryFerrier: so how should these psychos be punished?
rolfmuller: I think it's crazy, what they have done
LarryFerrier: sooooooooo....?
LarryFerrier: how should they be punished?
rolfmuller: and I think it's crazy to start a war
LarryFerrier: answer the question
vegasvic: Fu them
vegasvic: take them out
vegasvic: sandam
vegasvic: ben laden
Mortsport: the war has already been started
vegasvic: take them out
grillbill: hmm
jasonj: Uncle Ben Laden's Converted Rice
vegasvic: i live in the village
vegasvic: when you see it live
vegasvic: coming down
LarryFerrier: rolf,answer the question
vegasvic: you get the idea
vegasvic: of the lives in there
TheIrishman: hi peachy
peachy: Hi there Irishman!!! :^) Good Evening!!! :^)
peachy: Hey there Mortsport!! :^)
rolfmuller: the first question to answer is: punish who? till this moment, nobody have taken the responsabilities
rolfmuller: all arabians?
LarryFerrier: you are useless
rolfmuller: afganistan?
Mortsport: this is easily the most single catastrophic act of violence against the US in it's history
vegasvic: ben laden has
Mortsport: hi peachy
vegasvic: for 3 weeks he has been saying it
peachy: I agree mortsport!!!
vegasvic: and we here in new york were going too sentance his guys
vegasvic: for the first trade boming
LarryFerrier: okay, rolfy...let's say they fgure out exactly who did it
rolfmuller: maybe I am, but tell who do you want to punish, larry?
vegasvic: so one doesnt have to look far
Mortsport: 2400 died in pearl harbor, this will far surpass that
LarryFerrier: how should they be punished?
vegasvic: 10000 in one of thoes building
Mortsport: 266 died in the plane crashes
vegasvic: look i live here
grillbill: they worked out in the 93 bombing that it took people about 3 hours to get out.. they didn't get that much time this time
peachy: I dare say the estimates are very low at this point...
vegasvic: its 1/4 of a mile from my house
vegasvic: there were 1000's
grillbill: some may not have realised what was going on for a while
vegasvic: coming out
vegasvic: and 1000's trying to help
vegasvic: and the buildiigs came down
grillbill: they employ 50,000 there with 90,000 visitors
LarryFerrier: Rolfy, you have no answer
vegasvic: you look at oklahoma
peachy: Hi there jason!!! :^)
jasonj: Yo, Peachy....
vegasvic: and see that
vegasvic: take it up a notch
vegasvic: not pearl arbor nothing is close
vegasvic: to this one
vegasvic: when its over
rolfmuller: I never said, that I have the answers, larry
BennyTheDip: any news on these other planes in the air????????
peachy: no - it is soooo sad vegasvic...
LarryFerrier: you also have no spine
vegasvic: we have f16 in arond manhattan
rolfmuller: but I DO know, that violence makes grow more violence
vegasvic: i was looking up knowing no planes were in the air
vegasvic: but its f15 and 16 flying
Mortsport: there is NO inbetween on this
rolfmuller: spine? don't understand
jasonj: amazing that you have electric and all, vegasvic
vegasvic: moselms
vegasvic: belive in
phs: veg - where are you?
vegasvic: eye for and eye
vegasvic: they cut of the hand that steals
vegasvic: now time
peachy: Hey there phs - good to see you here this afternoon!!! :^)
phs: anyone on fibs in lower manhattan?
vegasvic: i live in lower manhaten in the village west sdie
vegasvic: i am 1/4 of a mile up from the towers
vegasvic: i bike next to it every day along the river
phs: wow - are you gibing us news reports?
vegasvic: to see them com edown
vegasvic: like it did
phs: you saw it?
BennyTheDip: gibing is an unforntunate mistake
vegasvic: all you could do is sit on the side walk and cry
leda: must be awfull
vegasvic: just the humanity
phs: oh - I've made much worse mistakes :) gibing is... mild
BennyTheDip: fair enough phs
vegasvic: brb
grillbill: don't rush
rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!
grillbill: irony was that the mayor's disaster centre was based on the 56th floor of one of the towers
Repugnist: I don't have adequate words to describe the horror i feel at your tradgedy. I'm 3000 miles away in England - my partner is in tears. GL to all- especiallty NY'kers. May we keep this community free from prejudice and blame. it,s these new communitys that may strike a new better world order.
peachy: Nicely said Repugnist!!! thanks :^)
rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!
phs: lewscannon - tell us about NYC now
lewscannon: we're kinda stunned
peachy: Hi there lews :^) Good to see you!!!
lewscannon: hi peachy
lewscannon: everyone's stocked up on food and water
lewscannon: you expect to see this kind of stuff in a schwartzenegger movie, not in real life
phs: did you see anything?
peachy: True - so true lews!!!
lewscannon: i'm too far uptown, but my wife saw the towers collapse from her office
Steve_Carey: they dont even want to play football this next weekend :(
peachy: WOW - that's closer than I would want to be lews...
lewscannon: she's midtown. you couldn't miss it from any high building
peachy: Hi there socksey!!!
phs: what do people think the USA will do now?
peachy: there are so many things to do phs....
lewscannon: i think george bush is going to try to attack new zealand
phs: lol lews - astute politacl analysis :)
lewscannon: he's pretty sure that it's next to belgium
Steve_Carey: what sucks is 10s of thousands of americans died in a cowardly senseless act of desperation
javiator: and we see it all fold out live on TV -startling..
peachy: True - so true Steve...
HomerJ waves goodbye.
Aveboo: Greetings and support to the people of the USA... God bless you !
Aveboo: and hi to all.
CokeBear: God? Fuck God! Religion is what causes crap like this! Damn religious fanatics!
peachy: Thanks Aveboo!! :^)
Repugnist: true CB - but don't dismiss the sentiment
phs: where are you Aveboo?
Aveboo: I agree too, but some pax believe in it and its a relief for them, so fuck u!
Aveboo: Belgium, Brussels
phs: well - thank you for your sentiments :)
CokeBear: The world would be a whole lot better off if there were no religion
gba: second that
peachy: Cokebear - for once -- please just drop it for now!!!!!!
javiator: say rather the world would be a better place without hate --TOLERANCE!
Repugnist: hear hear j
socksey: hugs for everyone
Repugnist: f*** hugs for everyone - i'm not THAT tolerant!
peachy: hehe - well I appreciated that socksey
CokeBear: No hugs for Osama bin Laden. He can eat USian Nuke now.
aki: one pointe anyone?
aki: hi alkan
lea: Who wants to play?
lea: I want to play!
lea: Hello everyone!
lea: Bye everyone!
lea: It's very quiet here.
socksey: lea you are refusing games
Aveboo: we r looking at u...
CokeBear: Its very quiet everywhere in the world today
Aveboo: not in the US, actualy...
peachy: depends on where in the US you are....
Aveboo: correct!
pixe: not quiet here .. they just said on the local radio dont bother going to the grocery store the shelves are empty .. people are panicing
CokeBear: oh shit...
CokeBear: so it begins...
peachy: Where are ya pixe???
pixe: NJ .. about 45 mins from NYC
peachy: OK- here it is not like that - but I'm over 500 miles from NYC (but still in NY)
aki: only ten minutes by plane pixie! ;-)
lea: Hello everyone!
lea: It's very quiet here.
pixe: thank you aki .. :-P
CokeBear: Interesting: Secret Service wants to keep Bush in Nebraska, Political aides want him back in the White House
rpo: i think the plane that went down in PA was destined for the white house...
peachy: I think it's more typical than interesting Cokebear - since when does teh gov't agree??
silent: Bush caused the war I think with all his talk of nuclear superiority
aki: coke, i want him back in texas!
GreekPJ: Bush is great!
GreekPJ: Clinton is the cause of all this
Mikey: silent, that is 100% crap
silent: Prepare for war and you get it. Bush brought it on
silent: I guess now he will have to work instead of loafing around
aki: war against whom?
Mikey: if you were in touch with reality . . .
Aveboo: Bush must be thinking; "shit! why izit all hapening to me..."
peachy: My condolences to all affected by this... bye bye
Aveboo: bye peach
silent: The poor families
socksey: ciao peach
aki: god shave the queen
silent: join _kef
_kef: god bless to all
lewscannon: apparently the plane that went down in pa was destined for camp david, bush's summer home
aki: in which state is camp david?
lewscannon: maryland
endellRio waves goodbye.
aki: hmm, then osama gave him wrong instructions?
aki: pa is way off maryland..
javiator: i heard all planes were bound for california ie: fully fueled
TheIrishman: hi
Aveboo: Osaman aimed at symbols...
aki: osama killed the artist formely known as prince? ;-)
Aveboo: I bet he didnt even expect the towers to collapse...
Streetgang: someone 3/5/7
FordPrefect: my heartfelt condolences to all american players, i hope nobody of you had casualties
lewscannon: thx, ford
HunnyB: hi Lews!!
alkan: who is up for a 5
lewscannon: hi hun
TheIrishman: gg
lewscannon: it's gonna be so strange to see the manhattan skyline without those towers
Scorpion_: 3?
tom: any New Yorkeans here? I 'D like to express my deepest pity
lewscannon: thx, tom
Steve_Carey: thought maybe Iraq might be behind the incidents
tom: I dont hear anything about the crasj crash in Pennsylvania .. did the air force shoot this plane?
Mortsport: no
Mortsport: chances are the crew thwarted the attempt
TheIrishman: cbs are reporting 2 other crashes - does anyone know where these were - or if confirmed
Steve_Carey: the Pentigon
tom: lews why did it take so long to get a statement from the President?
TheIrishman: in addition to pentagon and wtc 2
Scorpion_: someone had to write his speech
raindance: nbc is reporting Usama Bin Laden is the culprit
maria: I am not a violent person, but I hope whoever is responsible for this atrocities suffers and burns in hell for eternity.
fond: countries feeding terrorists many ways... one `s terrorist being freedom fighter for others... what happened today was the biggest in world terror history. and i believe this was an attack to humanity.
fond: and many countries were supporting this till now. so everyone is responsable for that. i am so sorry for a
fond: all
Johnm: would some one like a game
raindance: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
Steve_Carey: scary thing is it may not be over with
cc_drug: Did all of you not go in to work today?
lapin: game anyone ?
raindance: in one way or another it won't be; we'll either hunt him down or go to war to get him
lapin: has there been some news about who ?
Steve_Carey: God only knows whats next how much more are we americansd going to be subjected to
raindance: nbc reports Bin Laden
lapin: nbc ?
lapin: doesn't sound authoritative
tom: be he officially declined
Dutchie: hi (again) all!
nilla: Hi Dutchie :))
bluebeard: Duchie! is your gf ok?
cc_drug: Is it true they suspect LA to be next?
raindance: lapin, yes, it sounds authoratative
Dutchie: yep, bluebeard... got a phone call from her around 1pm edt... she was on the 13th floor, instead of in her office, at the 53rd...
lapin: news channels like to do that - don't trust them
bluebeard: that's a relief
Dutchie: yep, bluebeard, it is... i am still very down though... and worried about a few other friends and acquaintances of mine, that work(ed) there...
raindance: lapin, no, this wasn't your typical
lapin: i guess we find out soon enough
raindance: yes, in fact they've been holding out, but that's the word on the new service wires
suzi: Jane!!!!!!!!!
jane_t: suzi long time no see how r u ????
Steve_Carey: Congress is to get together on the steps of the capitol building to express their support for the president
raindance: support of America
lapin: i appreciate the act happened in the USA
lapin: but this affects ALL of us now
raindance: I have this tremendous sense that he (if it's him) will not live long, nor have freedom long
Johnm: anyone for 3 point pls
Steve_Carey: a news conference at 7:00pmEDT and holding a session of congress tomorrow to pass support measures perhaps war
cc_drug: any word on the other two stray planes?????
raindance: Steve, where are you hearing that information?
Steve_Carey: CBS news
Biggles: a sad day.......
Biggles: I hope Cokebear is finally happy.....he finally got what he's been asking for.....
socksey: what do you mean biggles?
Bob: 1/3/5/7/9 pointer please
Biggles: all Cokebear has done since day 1 is attack America, and tell us we were going to get it from Ben Laden.......so I hope he's now finally happy
Mortsport: cokebores already used up his inane comment allotment for the day
Biggles: what's his take Mort.....probably "I told ya so".....
Mortsport: no
Mortsport: just stupid insensitive remarks
socksey: cokebear would never wish us this
Biggles: right.......he's the biggest jerk I've ever heard......
Mortsport: but he did say bin laden should eat the nuke
Biggles: he did? why would he want his biggest buddy to take a fall?
raindance: here's a link to fbi's page on bin laden
raindance: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
socksey: be kind to your enemies......it will blow their minds :)
Mortsport: l've heard support here from all countries, except for cokebore
Dutchie: i have to admit one thing about cokebear... when he heard that my gf was in there, he was one of the first to wish me strength...
Biggles: your gf might have died?
raindance: indeed, socksey, the kindest thing to do is to take out bin laden, many human lives will be saved that way
socksey: see......saying things here in defense of oneself means nothing when the chips are down
Mortsport: Afghanistan is hiding bin laden
Biggles: Dutchie....what's the story on your gf?
Dutchie: she got out, Biggles... i heard from her at about 1pm EDT... but those four hours waiting were the hardest hours of my life!
Mortsport: another building did collapse
Biggles: thank god.....im glad for you
Dutchie: thanks Biggles!
Mortsport: building 7 next to the wtc
raindance: Godspeed to you Dutchie
Dutchie: thx!
Mortsport: still another couple buildings in danger of collapsing
Biggles: they just showed the 3rd building collapsing
raindance: it's horrifying to think of, but the death toll may be in the tens of thousands
Mortsport: it's amazing the topple effect didn't take down more
Mortsport: but it's like both wtc buildings imploded
StoneTiger: i don't think those things have the structural integrety to go down in one peice after you knock out a significant hole
Biggles: did you just see that last video?
Mortsport: l've sen it all, what a nightmare
StoneTiger: sorry, no tv here
bluebeard: StoneTiger: apparently it was the subsequent fire that waekened the structures
HumanIAm: 5 pt match anyone?
Johnm: johnm will
Soldier: anyone for 5??
StoneTiger: sounds plausible, I'm not a civil engineer or anything
Mortsport: there are palastinian celebrations going on
raindance: nbc now says new information leads US officials to be 90% sure Bin Laden is behind all of this
JCoyne: whichever country is harboring bin laden pays the price
aki: the same officials who did not know anything just hours agol....
JCoyne: a very LARGE price
javiator: hes in New Zealand..
HumanIAm: the 'large price' is the same as the reason we have these attacks in the first place
suzi waves goodbye.
peachy: Hoi Dutchie!! :^)
aki: javietor, no he is in norfolk
peachy: Hi again Mortsport!! :^)
Dutchie: hi peachy! :)
aki: he runs fish and chips shop there
peachy: Hi ya JC :^)
javiator: Kings Lynn?
JCoyne: hey peachy
peachy: Hi again socksey!! :^)
peachy: Hey there Irishman!!! :^)
TheIrishman: hi peachy
oldovercoat: raindance, are you there?
CokeBear: People are thinking this was some big, expensive operation, but it might have only been 4 people: one on each plane, with a gun, or even a knife
HumanIAm: what difference does that make, Cokebear?
oldovercoat: how does one man with a knife hold 90 people + crew hostage and force them to crash a plane? no way
CokeBear: USA is planning to seek revenge, but the perps are already dead.
CokeBear: (You've never been a hostage, have you?)
HumanIAm: the US will kill lots and lots of people in REVENGE - just like always - nothing changes - dead is dead and makes more dead
oldovercoat: 97:1 ? c'mon
CokeBear: Once the terrorist kills one person, everyone is thinking "That could have been me"
pRICK: U.S. should stop supporting the Isreali terrorists
mdreier: US should stop _training_ Bin-Ladens
pRICK: and Sharons
javiator: the palestinians celebrating is a very disturbing site... but I sympathise -they have to put up with American helicopters and jets blowing up thier buildings and people...
pRICK: yup
HumanIAm: indoctrination happens on all sides - no real differences there
pRICK: bulldozers destroying their homes
pRICK: except they are usually the ones dying
raindance: Arafat condemned it
Mortsport: hey prick, don't you ever think they bring it on themselves
pRICK: right
Dutchie: bonjour Eve!!! :)
TheIrishman: bon soir maman
maman_Eve: bonjour Dutchie
maman_Eve: bonsoir irishman
Dutchie: i was doubting whether or not to put "bon" in there...
javiator: would you msay the same of Americans??
Mortsport: the rest of the world is trying to become civilized, what the hell is their problem?
Yosemite_Sam: not very good today
pRICK: they should just give up their own land and country so the Isrealis can live in peace
mdreier: they are being bomberd into the stone ages - that is thir problem
CokeBear: USA is attacking Afganistan!
pRICK: why don't they jump in the ocean, Mortsport?
Yosemite_Sam: where do you come from pRick
Mortsport: the have been at war for THOUSANDS of years. what in gods name is their problem?????????
fatboyandy: What can i say about the news? I fear for peace everywhere
pRICK: chicago
Yosemite_Sam: why are trying to justify what happened?
HumanIAm: gotta go
HumanIAm: thanks
mdreier: Wow - the US is bombing Kabul
pRICK: their problem, Mortsport, is that the Isrealis have stolen their land - this has only been happening this century
fond: what?!!
Mortsport: where do you see this mdreier?
mdreier: cnn
fatboyandy: is there a source on that ?
Yosemite_Sam: who said that?
maman_Eve: this is a terribly sad day for everyone
Mortsport: the problem is prick, that they have been warring over land for THOUSAND