This chat was recorded on FIBS from 9:00am to 9:00pm EST on Sept 11, 2001

(Big thanks to CokeBear for saving this!)

CokeBear: CokeBearNewsFlash: Two Planes crash into WorldTradeCenter Twin Towers

jag: one into each?

CokeBear: yup

CokeBear: Holy Fucking Shit!!! Turn on TV!!

dorbel: simultaneously?

theophilae: a moment of prayer for the families of those killed might be in order..

dorbel: and they think fibs dice are weird

CokeBear: I would guess 200 dead

gammondude: i hear now suicide bombers

jasonj: a moment of prayer for all the gawkers who flock to their TVs

fond: suicide attack

CokeBear: yup

aki: are you guys serious?

lucacp: gg thx

CokeBear: NTSB dude on CNN says no way this is an accident

CokeBear: (This is going to be news for the next 6 months, remember that you heard it first on FIBS)

Karlos: Anyone 1-3?

aki: depends on who sat in this plane?

fond: both planes?

theophilae: gg

rogosin: pictures of the crash on www.bbc.co.uk

fond: 18 mins . between crashes

lucacp: i think the pilots were playing winfibs against each other

jasonj: who won?

jag: not the people in the buildings

lucacp: whe will never know

gammondude: ap reporting plane was hijacked b4 it crashed

lucacp: they are the real droppers

PaulaJones: I am a dropper.

gammondude: im glad u can find humor in such tradegy

jasonj: wouldn't you like to be a dropper too?

PaulaJones: dropping my ratings .....

jasonj: Drink Dr. Opper

fond: both were stolen from united airlines

jasonj: they've robbed me before....

dorbel: the line between tragedy and comedy is very fine

gammondude: i think thats a thin line between love and hate

dorbel: tragedy is when I slip on a banana skin

dorbel: comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die

jasonj: (that's true.)

dorbel: thousands of people will die today in accidents and by murder

dorbel: why is it worse in New York?

dorbel: because they all die at once?

rdd: wow dorbel unimpressed by flying two jet s into a building touch crowd

rdd: tough crowd

dorbel: its an amazing thing true, but I feel no grief , no

gammondude: too bad he wasnt in the bldg

jasonj: beautiful....

jasonj: time for a big group hug, eh?

dorbel: all the people in the building were wonderful people of course

jasonj: of course.

jasonj: think of the children....

fond: so u can judge who'd die

raindance: anyone here in NY right now?

dorbel: two years ago US planes were rocketing a European capital city, where was your grief then?

dorbel: I bet you were cheering in NY

fond: who me?

dorbel: Go Hawks, Go

quine: us planes rocket iraq daily

dorbel: yes

jasonj: (one was shot down today)

fond: u sound so poor

raindance: anyone on here in NY now?

quine: no, i just moved out of the urban death maze, ghouXXXXthough

lewscannon: i used to work in the world trade center

quine: me too

lewscannon: 105th floor

quine: actualy WFC

raindance: lews, is the building full at 8:42 in the morning ?

lewscannon: yep

raindance: that's what I thought

raindance: I wonder if the second building was fully evacuated 18 minutes after the first crash

lewscannon: i imagine that i know a lot of people who still work there

raindance: this will prove to show a heavy loss of life

lewscannon: i'm afraid so, if only from the smoke

lewscannon: we used to watch planes flying past us

luni: sorry sorry sorry petter

cooper: did you hear about the World Trade Center in NYC?

tom: old news

jasonj: where's that?

lewscannon: we're talking about it now

kacer: is it possible to connect via telnet ?

cooper: New York City, USA

lucacp: the first was a 767

rdd: they stopped the market

lewscannon: all roads in and out of nyc and the airports are closed

cooper: i heard that they have closed the airports, tunnels, etc.

lewscannon: and all firefighters in nyc are being called in

rdd: the dow is halted

lewscannon: they're evacuating lower manhattan

lucacp: the pentagon is on fire also

cooper: what!

lucacp: its on dutch tv

cooper: I haven't heard that yet

lucacp: its speculating they are not sure yet

cooper: ok

herestoyoukid: terriost attack

lucacp: for sure

cooper: that is what Bush is saying

herestoyoukid: how did they get passed the radar

cooper: yes, the pentagon is on fire

fond: phalestinian

lewscannon: they're commercial planes

fond: its announced now

lewscannon: i'm hearing that the first plane was hijacked from boston

lucacp: is it true about the pentagon

cooper: yes, the first one was

cooper: yes, it is true about the pentagon

herestoyoukid: aparantly im chatting on yahoo

herestoyoukid: world trade center

jasonj: pentagon

cooper: yes, WTC and the pentagon

cooper: but pres. bush is in florida

tom: cnn'S site is down

rdd: they are evacuating the white house thank god george W is never there

cooper: :-)

jasonj: holy smokes!

cooper: yes!!!

lewscannon: i've got confirmation of the pentagon

cooper: i have cnn on the tv

rdd: shit now i have to worry about incoming planes

herestoyoukid: im watching cnn now

herestoyoukid: they evacuated

cooper: where? i have the tv on in another room

herestoyoukid: theres a fire at the pentagon

cooper: any idea as to who and why yet?

fond: palestinians announced

cooper: for both locations?

Viper: I guess you Americans won't be so keen to bankroll the IRA now, In the UK we''ve had this for 30 years now.

fond: yes

fond: 3 buildings

CokeBear: Did the IRA ever do anything like this?

Viper: About 3,00 dead in total

Viper: many women and kids

lucacp: h

cooper: which location?  NYC  or Wash?

dorbel: the IRA have killed thousands over the years

CokeBear: All at once?

lucacp: they must fly a 767 on bush his head that would be a good thing

Viper: they peak at about 28

dorbel: one at a time? all at once? what's the difference?

herestoyoukid: they hijacked an army helicopter that crashed in to the buuilding

dorbel: the difference here is that they are americans I think

fond: they sez theres a third plane was for pentagon

fourth: thanks for all the invites - but I'm just waiting for Castanza to come back

fond: was a 757

herestoyoukid: world war three!!!!!!!

cooper: please, lets hope not!

piquant: is America at war ?? now pentagon hit

Viper: Where's the anti aircraft guns at the Pentagon?

cooper: who knows!

herestoyoukid: thats what im thinking

Viper: Air travel will never be the same that's for sure

herestoyoukid: no air traffic in the us

CokeBear: World War 3, and we don't know who the opponent is yet

jasonj: all airline traffic is stopped!

cooper: do you really think so?

jasonj: hope you weren't going anywhere today.

jasonj: FAA said so

herestoyoukid: yep

herestoyoukid: all airprts have been shut down

CokeBear: What about planes in the sky?

jasonj: probably heading for the nearest building

CokeBear: Do they just stop where they are, & hover in the air?

herestoyoukid: every tunnel into washington as been blocked

cooper: no, they have to land some where

jasonj: they certainly will

lucacp: i think monica lewinsky was giving head to the pilot

djroecher: can some just give a quick resumee on what has happened? I cant connect to any news site ....

CokeBear: Two planes crashed into World Trade Center Towers

jasonj: the web has been hit!

CokeBear: A bomb at the Pentagon

piquant: terrorist obviously ..but which group ?

dorbel: could all be a giant fibsspoof

cooper: terrorists have flown two planes in to each of the world trade centers in NYC and

CokeBear: No claim of responsibility

jasonj: I heard a claim

djroecher: are you serious about the bomb?

rogosin:  No - photos on BBC.com TF1.com - it's true

herestoyoukid: jesus george bush just aid we wil not reat until we track down those that are responsbile

jasonj: it's a palestinian liberation organization

CokeBear: NEWS: The explosion at the pentagon was a plane crash

cooper: is it a bomb or a plane for the pentagon

herestoyoukid: plane

CokeBear: Plane

jasonj: amazing.

lewscannon: another plane

CokeBear: This is a co-ordinated attack on the ISA

CokeBear: er... USA

jasonj: just fucking amazing....

djroecher: serious about the pentagon?

herestoyoukid: oh well any one for a game may be our last

herestoyoukid: yes

jasonj: yes... pentagon is hit

CokeBear: I'm in Canada, nobody hates us enough to do this

jasonj: capitol building is evacuated

jasonj: west wing of the white house evacuated

herestoyoukid: two planes  crashed into he world trade cener and 1 into he pentagon

cooper: treasury build. is also being evacuated

CokeBear: Americans insist on pissing off the whole world, this is what happens

dorbel: anti chech shirt terroists?

jasonj: amazing....

dorbel: Coke Bear hits the spot

jasonj: I was only pissing in the woods...

lewscannon: apparently a paestinian group has taken credit for this

lucacp: you are right coke bear

jasonj: hopefully no one flies into my house

rdd: oh no howard stern is off the air

jasonj: tragedy!!

lucacp: BEE GEES

jasonj: they've hit us where it hurts the most!

dorbel: lol

lucacp: white house is hit

dorbel: muted lol of course

herestoyoukid: is it white

cooper: was the white house hit?

rdd: would this be a bad time to call companies in that building looking for a job?

herestoyoukid: im iin australia everyone loves us

herestoyoukid: i hope

cooper: :-P)

rdd: uh oh sirens are going off in chicago

CokeBear: Cat in a tree?

CokeBear: or something bigger

herestoyoukid: they just recieved a threat that the terriots are going to bomb the whitehouse

fond: 4th. ! a shopping mall

fond: in W

lucacp: explosionin second tower

CokeBear: One of the World Trade Center Towers just collapsed

rdd: wow these guys weren't fucking around

cooper: completely?

herestoyoukid: watching it on ccn

fond: at NY

dorbel: are terriots responsible or teriosts? We should be told

rdd: what is a terioist?

CokeBear: Anonymous claim of responsibilty from Palestinian Org

herestoyoukid: someone that scares dorbel

fond: theres a 4th. !!! in NY

CokeBear: Denied by other members of that Org

cooper: where is the 4th?

fond: in NY

rdd: i wonder if i can get on tv if I say i did it

piquant: what this time fond ?

fond:  a shopping mall

tom: any idea where I can find that infom online?

CokeBear: nope

Gerhard_Hofer: maybe a new explosion

cooper: as far as i know the news sites are still down

fond: this is unbeliavable!!!

tom: they are

rdd: i need a second

CokeBear: Sears Tower in Chicago has been evacuated

lucacp: i hope it hit puff daddy or p diddy or whatever he calles himself

Gerhard_Hofer: center tower collapses

CokeBear: "Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine"

fond: palestinians denied

spiffy: it's insane

CokeBear: uh huh, real Democratic of them

tom: any problems in Chicago?

CokeBear: Sears Tower evacuated

rdd: sorry

CokeBear: No booms yet

spiffy: the pentagon has been hit

lucacp: i think its an action from greenpeace

CokeBear: This was mega-coordinated...

Gerhard_Hofer: sell al what you have 3 war

spiffy: they have shut down DC

spiffy: and all air traffic, nationwide

fond: one of twins totally collapsed now

cooper: yes

spiffy: nothing comes, nothing goes

lucacp: is the pilot a dropper??

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: anyone in NYC?

CokeBear: Did the NASDAQ open today?

cooper: no, my brother in law is

jasonj: no trading

lucacp: the roof is on fire

lewscannon: yes, cb

cooper: he heard it in brooklyn heights

lucacp: wall street opens low today

Gerhard_Hofer: Lucap: no he play only with bombs

lewscannon: part of wtc1 has collapsed into a nother building

maaty: 3 pointer?

maaty: ich will spielen!!!!

lewscannon: i used to work there

rdd: wow my life doesnt' seem so bad now

CokeBear: All market trading closed today

cooper: r u in NYC?

lewscannon: yep

cooper: did you hear it?

lewscannon: no, i'm uptown

cooper: ok

CokeBear: Plane #4 hit the base of the south tower, causing it to collapse

CokeBear: Plane #3 hit the pentagon

lewscannon: but i know a few people who work on the 105th floor of the building :<

cooper: is it a definite on plane #4?

CokeBear: The south tower no longer exists

cooper: lews:  I am very sorry about your friends

herestoyoukid: they just went on full scale war alert

lewscannon: i worked there from 1995-97

cooper: who did?

cooper: oh

herestoyoukid: america accoordingto cnn

fond: apocalips

cooper: i am starting to wonder about that...

CokeBear: Explosion on Capitol Hill

herestoyoukid: just herd it

CokeBear: Possible Plane Crash

lucacp: maybe the americans learn now they can not fuck around with the whole world

CokeBear: lucacp: not now

fond: so this was a lesson??

lucacp: i hope

lewscannon: no, unfortunately, this is a beginning

cooper: do you really thnk that?

fond: again... palestinias announce they were not

CokeBear: This attack required a large number of people, very co-ordinated...

cooper: yes, it had to be!

cooper: it has to be a larger group to do all of this!

fond: yes

rdd: someone please please alert superman

bedstefar: hej  Barkeeper, venter pX at afslutte med AVRIL..........hvis det da ikke er en quitter

CokeBear: My guess would be Palestinians, but I would've thought that even they would be stupid enough to declare war on USA

herestoyoukid: maybe they were

CokeBear: (wouldn't)

Gerhard_Hofer: no explosion in capitol

Gerhard_Hofer: two streets behind

CokeBear: Who here in in NY or DC?

lewscannon: here, cb

CokeBear: How far from WTC?

lewscannon: i'm uptown, thank god

CokeBear: How do you co-ordinate a hijacking of 6 planes at the same time?

CokeBear: 737s and 767s

rdd: damn i wish howard stern was on

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: ?

fond: a track full w/bombs explode

Gerhard_Hofer: second tower fall

fond: infront of foreign min. building

jasonj: second tower is gone.

jasonj: the world trade center is history.

CokeBear: bummer

CokeBear: I wonder if they will be able to find the Black Boxes from those planes

CokeBear: Car Bomb at the State Dept (unconfirmed)

CokeBear: Another hijacking (unconfirmed)

fond: US is in war allert!!!

CokeBear: Source?

CokeBear: fond: Source?

fond: in TR news

CokeBear: TR?

fond: turkish

piquant: where is it unconfirmed hijacking ?

CokeBear: heading for Washington DC

onthego: my son in law lives in new york

fond: american president 's family gets in to air force one

onthego: lives across the madison square garden

fond: Us in war

piquant: has declared ???

fond: yes:(

CokeBear: on who?

CokeBear: When you declare war, don't you have to pick an opponent?

CokeBear: Who do they reply to?

fond: unknown

CokeBear: 747 down in Pennsylvania

CokeBear: Part of the Penatgon collapsed

fond: air force one on air

CokeBear: CanaryWharf Buildings in London, UK evacuated

SchmitZ: who's ready?

onthego: party time for the arabs

tokendo: Can't get on the internet, but we can play BG wooohooo

CokeBear: This is the place for news

fond: its like an sience fiction drama

CokeBear: I read a book once that played out a similar scenario

SchmitZ: yeah today is my birthday

onthego: pearl harbor all oner again

onthego: over

CokeBear: But at least Pearl Harbor we knew who to shoot back at

onthego: deport all palistimians

fond:  can u believe palestinians can organize such big thing?

CokeBear: Osama bin Laden?

Gerhard_Hofer: a new plane attack pentagon

CokeBear: Is he buddies with Arafat?

fond: never happened such thing before!

fond: its not just to US, its to all world

csg: good morning fibsters

csg: anyone turned the tv on?

Gerhard_Hofer: i think all

csg: Muslims, what great people

fond: yes csg?

onthego: a religeon, can u believe?

csg: has anyone seen tv this morning?

CokeBear: dude, we've been talking about it here since 8:47

CokeBear: (EDT)

SSNAG: Does anyone wish to bet against me that the deathtoll from all this is going to be greater than 1500?

onthego: a sad day for the whole world

CokeBear: try 20,000

CokeBear: 50,000 people work in the World Trade Center

onthego: 50,000 work in trade center

SSNAG: Yeah thats what I fear but I can hope that god guarded some of the potential victims..........

CokeBear: Arafat has "condemned" these attacks

CokeBear: God?

CokeBear: LOL

Gerhard_Hofer: F 16 atacks plane who like to go to pentagon

CokeBear: How can you talk about god at a time like this?

fond: there was a plain through washington for 2 sec. in radar

SSNAG: easy if you don't believe in god then this act of war is something  that is way to much for one nation to with stand..........

csg: Let's have a war

csg: American Jihad

CokeBear: CNN already has a name for the broadcast:

CokeBear: "America Under Attack"

csg: Pablo Escobar's people did this?

jasonj: NBC's .... TARGET: AMERICA

onthego: so is canada cokebear, the entire world is a effected

csg: I think America should go to the middle east and kick some ass

Draco: why are you guys so sure external forces are responsible? What about the nutters responsible for Oklahoma?

SSNAG: csg when a nation state wantingly murders the citizens of another nation a state of war exists.  The United states of America is now at war with an unknown nation but at a guess Afganistan would be my prime suspect.

dice: here in Jamaica no problem mon ~~~~~~~~~~~

CokeBear: What if its Americans (a la Tim McVeigh)?

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: anyone claim resposibility yet?

CokeBear: not officially

dice: don is responsible

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: for the bombings?

CokeBear: NIHILIST

SSNAG: I heard that a Palenstinean group claimed responsibilitly

dice: don is responsible

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: and some country has declaired war???

dice: spliffs for all

csg: who could organize such a thing?

dice: don is responsible

SSNAG: an agent of the devil csg............

jasonj: I think it's C.H.I.M.P

csg: I just took a doodoo

jasonj: that's the best news I've heard all day.

fond: NASA evacuated

Gerhard_Hofer: Source ?

fond: turkish news

fond: reuters too

Gerhard_Hofer: thanks

UnLuckY: 5th plane has been spoted crashed in pensylvania...

tokendo: word of other airliners unnaccounted for

UnLuckY: BelgaNews

tokendo: I can't get on the internet to see Rueter's, AP, etc

fond: pentagon announced to US media... the plane that flies over washington will be shot in any case

aki: one pointer anyone?

Draco: stay here - better news feed than the BBC

fond: im stucked here like i cant log in again

Gerhard_Hofer: in Europe all american officiel building evacuated

tokendo: NBC: Day of Disaster lol

aki: not here in munich

UnLuckY: Smoke is coming out from W residence...

aki: i mean the evacuation

UnLuckY: Gelga news

Draco: W residence?

Draco: White House?

UnLuckY: White house?

UnLuckY: duno, they sais the President's residence

fond: american media sez ussame bin ladin....

fond: taliban gonna make an announcement soon

UnLuckY: BelgaNews says Ben Ladin is the only one who has the means of doing such an attack...

mimicarey: anyone for 1/3/5?

myzd: hi everyone, may God bless all people in USA!!!!!

Tremorchrist: Hello all, condolances to all my American Fibs friends :(

Honeygirl_ll: thx tremor and myzd

myzd: i actually had tears in my eyes when i saw the scene

odonto: come on...anyone...try the coming norwegian champion!

onthego: myzd, me too

Tremorchrist: Australia is thinking of you and hope you flick the purpetrators off the face of OUR earth !!

fond: american airlines announced 2 lost planes were w/150 passengers

UnLuckY: There is a lot of sadness and consternation in the world today

myzd: what on earth is going on taking thosands innocent peoples lives to satify their ridiculous .... whatever too upset

rdd:  wow how is cnn.com down and fibs up?

Tremorchrist: ? perverted aggression. psychotic.

odonto: how many dead?

fond: passengers?  ... all

myzd: more than 1000 now

odonto: ok

odonto: OSAMA BIN LADEN...u're gonna die for this.

aki: odonto, you figured it all out....

Tremorchrist: has denied it already

fond: report sez he was telling this 1 week ago to a newspaper in london

aki: odonto is as smart as fbi and cia together  lol

odonto: told it 3 weeka ago.

fond: another plane crashed close to pitsbourg

Tremorchrist: !!

myzd: by the way where did panes end up at?

myzd: planes i mean

odonto: have to get home...watch the news...odonto, from oslo...norway...thx for this peaceful country...bye!)

fond: bye

SchmitZ: who's ready?

aki: what about the plane flying towards pentagon

Tremorchrist: not sure aki, still some missing

Trilobite: "no longer a threat", radio says

aki: does cnn h

myzd: i thought 8 were hijacked

Symba: one additional plane is still missing

Trilobite: I'm in Brooklyn, and fighter jets have recently soared over us

UnLuckY: US Ambassy and National Airport completely bucled up, here in Brussels...

Tremorchrist: Manhattan lockdown !

Trilobite: Bush says the "folks" who did this will be found

UnLuckY: Have to go, condolances to american friends & allies !

funny: all flight in Canadian airport canceled

fond: america ready to retaliation... to unknown....

gmorgan: OMG  sorry u guys in America     my sympathy is with ya's

Tremorchrist: here here gm

bluebeard: I really liked the WTC towers, and as for the number of fatalities... sheesh..

CokeBear: Another hijacked plane still in the air

gmorgan: where

CokeBear: Was Boston to L.A.

funny: around washing

funny: around washington

Tremorchrist: may it land safely

CokeBear: not likely

CokeBear: It will probably be shot down

Tremorchrist: fair call. hey cb

bluebeard: now there's a tough call

gmorgan: We all know revenge will happen soon enough

Tremorchrist: here's hoping, but not good enough!

gmorgan: exactly

bluebeard: it sounds like no one has a clue who's responsible

Megges: All good wishes to america from germany, We are shocked here.

CokeBear: Jihad

CokeBear: or Osama bin Laden

COS: very very sad

fond: taliban ambassador to pakistan condemned attacks

fond: this rules out ussame ben ladin

CokeBear: My Dad was in the US Consol in Toronto. They were evacuated by RCMP and guys with big guns.

funny: 747 boeing crashed in Somerset Pennsylvania

Trilobite: I'm too sick to laugh at that one

Trilobite: Palestinians in Jordan were shooting their guns in the air in triu mph

Draco: is that the same 747 as before or another one?

Tremorchrist: i feel sick too !

gmorgan: I'm an hour away from Toronto and there shuting alot down heere too

CokeBear: What?

Megges: I hope America will react prudently

Trilobite: I am in New York, the devastation in beyond description

gmorgan: my prays r with you all

Trilobite: Bush couldn't even find New York on a map

bluebeard: X

Tremorchrist: here here Trilobite !

urgu: Personally, I find all this rather immoral... How many casualties did US bombs cause in Serbia, Iraq, and so on?

Trilobite: Bush says the "Folks who did this should be investigated"

urgu: USA is not the centre of the world

gmorgan: it is today

Joe_Tamargo: Let us congratulate urgu on his sensitivity.

fond: american airbase in turkey in beta alarm now... so all others

Tremorchrist: urgu look up the term immoral ok

Draco: what does beta mean?

Megges: black day for the world today

fond: dont know

gmorgan: this is unbeleivable : ((

mat waves goodbye.

Joe_Tamargo: Beta is the letter B.

Draco: oh, such wit

Joe_Tamargo: I was serious.

fond: america closed border to mexico

patrija: beta is the second stage of security alert... alpha being the least: delta the highest

Draco: thank you

patrija: you're welcome

Tremorchrist: i think the world just clicked up a few notches in alert

Tremorchrist: for years to come

csg: who did it?

gmorgan: arms race will start all over agin

csg: America needs a national identity card

bluebeard: Bush's missile shield would have saved us!

Megges: we couldnt allow a few terrorist to stop a peace process for our race !!!

reima: I would like to express my outrage for what happened..lets hope things don't escalate to the verge of a global crisis.

Draco: As I said before, why are you so sure this wasn't the work of McVeighs buddies?

CokeBear: 1) They aren't into kamakazee

myzd: may we all pray for this tradegy!!

Tremorchrist: OMG ? 200 missing Ambo's & Firemen !

CokeBear: 2) They don't have the organization to hijack 6 planes simultaneously

myzd: i thought 8

CokeBear: 8? ok 8

mmteam waves goodbye.

Draco: possibly true, but who else does?

CokeBear: bin Laden

CokeBear: Arafat

fond: so orgnized

Draco: evidence?

csg: it is either kook americans, Pablo Escobar's friends or Muslims

gmorgan: what does this say about airport secruity

Tremorchrist: too early don't guess.

bluebeard: Arafat says he's shocked as much as everyone else

Draco: no way is this Arafat's work

CokeBear: of course he says that, if he didn't he'd be dead

aurel: not a single person is behind: it must be a whole logistic aof a state

CokeBear: Taliban?

onthego: i'll bet arafat knows the bastards that did it

Tremorchrist: Don't Guess !

Megges: arafat would stop all peace process, i dont think that he personally has something to do with this unbelieveable killing

guggus: u are right tremo

aurel: must have pilot knowledge, must have trainingcamps, must have technical support - ergo: a state is behind this terror

Tremorchrist: and psychotic en-masse....

Megges: i think it was a radical group of people not a state

Dutchie: hi all!

Mooncan: What a tradgedy....

aurel: well, not whole state but a group supported by one

Mooncan: Anyone here in NYC ?

Tremorchrist: hi dutchie

Dutchie: does anyone know any information phone number for the situation in NY? my girlfriend works in the WTC, and I am trying to get info...

aurel: NYC telefones are blocked

fond: Dutchie its almost impossible to reach now

aurel: only emergency communication

onthego: i got emil from ny

onthego: email

Brian_J: .... late riser , whats going on  ????

Dutchie: me too... from other friends... but not from my gf... :(

aurel: Dutchie - where are you from?

Tremorchrist: OMG BJ turn on the TV, sept 11th 2001

CokeBear: Disney World has been evacuated

Dutchie: i am in the Netherlands... my gf is from - and in - NY though... she works (or should i say worked, given the fact that both collapsed) in tower 1, on the 53rd floor...

CokeBear: I'm so sorry man

bluebeard: me too... there was about 1/2 hour to evacuate I think

Tremorchrist: WTC no longer exists BJ, I'm so sorry too Dutchie, could have got out though !

nilla: Im very sorry too Dutchie!!

fond: im so sorry Dutchie

aurel: must be 40-50.000 dead

Tremorchrist: many have got out np

pixe: Dutchie she may have gotten out .. lots did in 60 in and under

Dutchie: could be less, aurel... about 20,000 work in the WTC... about 5,000 visitors on average...

Dutchie: that's what i'm hoping, pixe...

Tremorchrist: heard interview with male on 77th floor tower 1 !!

onthego: me too guchie, i'm crying damnit those who did this

Dutchie: thanks, Tremorchrist! that at least sounds good!

socksey: guessing is unproductive....best to hold tongue until true perpetrators are found out.

fond: right

Tide: Tremor, I saw that interview too, the guy that was on 77th floor said that the evacuation was fairly orderly

CokeBear: good news

Dutchie: guess i better play a game... it might distract my mind a bit...

Tremorchrist: exits were ok for some time yes

socksey: hug to everyone!

Dutchie: thanks, Tide! that sounds better than what i heard sofar!

Tatwo: geen telefoon  zeker in america Dutchie???

Tide: good luck Dutchie

Dutchie: nope, Tatwo, all phones are down...

Tatwo: tjonge wat een ellende

csg: how did they get the pilot to fly the plane into the building?

CokeBear: Probably shot him and flew it themselves

Nashvilleman: Probably took over them selves

Tatwo: think so cokebear

socksey: auto pilot?

csg: how did they fly the plane so well?

csg: two direcet hits

bluebeard: microsoft flight simulator!

CokeBear: Are there terrorists who know how to fly planes?

socksey: crazy is not dumb

Tatwo: you bet Cokebear , lot of terrorists  joined the army

csg: I was watching footage from the West Bank where the Palestinians are celebrating

csg: give me a gun I will go to Afganistan

Dutchie: only some, csg... not all!

csg: Dutchie, stop being so politically correct

dorbel: no you wouldnt csg

onthego: just got ph call from ny

onthego: its sporadic access to phones

Dutchie: csg, not politically correct... just realistic...

onthego: cell is out

csg: Dutchie, ergo all Palestinians are good, fuck you

socksey: my aunt in houston says that all of downtown houston is being evacuated

aurel: hey palestinians have problems as well, give solidarity to those who suffer

gmorgan: Dutchie  gl brother  and to everyone else   GOD BLESS...   later all

Tremorchrist: bye gm

Tremorchrist: whoever is behind it was the leader of a minority, not a people !

csg: Tremorchrist, lets talk about responsibility

The_Big_Duck: The Big Duck is FINE! Thank you for your concern!

CokeBear: Where are you?

csg: I am sure there were a minority of Germans that were against the Nazis

The_Big_Duck: On Long island, 50 miles away...

CokeBear: Can you see the smoke?

The_Big_Duck: No

The_Big_Duck: Both my sister and her hubby are in the City...they are holing up for the night with friends

Dutchie: are they ok, Duck?

CokeBear: bin Laden is denying responsibility

The_Big_Duck: Yep...they are fine. My bro-in-law..whom I love like a brother, was in the basement of teh building NEXT TO the Twin Towers

The_Big_Duck: Is that official?

funny:  CBS news : more than thousand dead

The_Big_Duck: Easily north of 2,00 dead

Joe_Tamargo: I can see a tremendous pall of smoke from my bedroom window in the middle of Queens.

CokeBear: 50,000 people worked in the WTC

piquant: wheres he denying it from Packistan ?

The_Big_Duck: I was watching the second crash and both collapses live on TV...blew my fucking Duck brain

CokeBear: I'm shocked, but not suprised.

Tremorchrist: me too

fond: taliban is denying.... by pakistan tv

Mortsport: when they are found they will be eliminated, most likely islamic factions

piquant: the packis are hiding him

csg: Death To The Towelheads!

jag: I notice they're assuming it's islamic fundamentalists again, wrong last time

CokeBear: Could be Iraq, China...

dorbel: bravo csg

CokeBear: North Korea

Tremorchrist: why guess and offend, wait for proof and exterminate

The_Big_Duck: Yeah, but the methodology is NOT Militia style

Dutchie: i agree, Tremorchrist!

CokeBear: This is way beyond the resources of the Palestinians

Draco: hmmm what resources are needed other than organisation?

CokeBear: It takes alot to hijack a plane...

The_Big_Duck: Whoever pulled this off had pilots, exceptional planning, suicide bombers....very puzzling

CokeBear: to hijack 8 planes?

The_Big_Duck: Or Trained pilots

Mortsport: osama bin laden issued a warning 3 weeks ago that an unprecedented attack on american interests would be carried out in retaliation of US support of lsrael

Tremorchrist: extrordinarily successful terrorist act , lex luther brilliant and insane

Festful: some people are speculating if it was american extremists...any comment on that?

dorbel: I suspect the CIA

socksey: that would be a speculation after the ok city bombing

onthego: landing and take offs take skill not plying

Festful: did all planes lift from american airports?

socksey: how about that young boy who made it to moscow a few years ago....

jag: Russt? Bit different scenario

jag: how many of the planes have crashed? any still up?

Dutchie: my girlfriend just called... she was on the 13th fllooor when it happened - purely accidental...

Tremorchrist: 50 still up all accounted for i just heard

Tide: good news Dutchie

piquant: so happy for you Dutchie ;-))

reima: congrats dutchie!!

Tremorchrist: excellent Dutchie

griff: Hooray - thanks for telling us Dutch

fond: **S** Dutchie

Dutchie: thanks guys!

onthego: great dutchie

Dutchie: now lets hope many more got out!

socksey: :)

Tremorchrist: just heard "act of war" from US stateman for the first time

jag: statesman? not bush then

csg: what do we do if it was Bin Laden?

Tremorchrist: is pointing at bin laden, given know one else would dare !

fond: american airbase in turkey in delta alarm now

socksey: i'll bet

Tremorchrist: no "spokesperson" only

Mortsport: cruise missles first to Afghanistan. that is where he is hiding

dorbel: yeah, rocketing some camel drivers somewhere is a good plan

CokeBear: I've been thinking about it, and there is no way the pilots were alive at the time of the crash

CokeBear: All it would take is one terrorist on each plane, with a small gun, and flying skills...

CokeBear: Shoot the pilot & co-pilot, take over the plane, and crash it

Patti: And you don't need that much skill-- you only have to maneuver the plane, not land it.

Mortsport: this is far worse than Pearl Harbor

CokeBear: Anyone here ever flown a 737 or 767?

socksey: we are a larger target

dorbel: though not as bad as Hiroshima say

jag: did they train on Microsoft Flight Simulator

socksey: i've flown 747

govert: apparently not!

CokeBear: How hard is it to manuver, for a non-pilot?

govert: (the training)

Tremorchrist: i wonder if the pittsburg crash was a heroic (US) pilot ?

Patti: Probably anybody who has flown a light plane could fly a 747 well enough to hit the tower.

Mortsport: yes

Patti: You don't have to take off or land, and those are the hard parts.

Tremorchrist: at least for the last run in !

socksey: LOL....not as a pilot

Joe_Tamargo: They say it's a lot harder than driving a car.  You have to keep the nose level.

jag: you'd still have to know certain controls - turn off autopilot etc

Dutchie: this is so weird... i am so happy about my gf... and still so sad about this happening...

pixe: Dutchie you heard from her?

CokeBear: She ok?

Patti: I think I could do it if I had to.

piquant: dutchie thats normal ;-)) and be happy you deserve to be and pray for those that lost lives and loved ones

Tremorchrist: you're aloud to be happy Dutchie

govert:  what is the latest from Manhattan?

jag: were all the hijacked planes from the same airline? how many?

dice: Yankees still in 1st

CokeBear: 2 from United

CokeBear: 2 from AA

pixe: nothing .. just treating the wounded .. all out bound and in bound traffic is halted ..

jag: 2 hit WTC, 1 Pentagon, where else?

CokeBear: Pittburgh

piquant: White house 1

Trilobite: I am about six milesd from lower Manhattan, there have been fighter jets flyong overhead earlier & I can smell the horror clearly from here

griff: I suspect the Pittsburgh one was shot down....

jag: what would the target have been?

Trilobite: My Brother in Law who works nearby got out of the area by ferry, before the collapse

govert: White House?

CokeBear: This is surreal

griff: You got that right CB

CokeBear: President is at an AFB in Louisiana

Patti: Friend of mine is in DC right now; she and I are supposed to be going to London on Thursday.

Tremorchrist: i heard them interview tom clancy --- surreal.

CokeBear: Clancy has predicted shit like this for years

Trilobite: Bush has been brought to Shrevesport, LA

Tremorchrist: opening question was reguarding life imitating art !

jag: i'd hardly call clancy art

griff: I suspect you're not travelling Patti

Dutchie: it sound a lot like that book though, jag...

Patti: I suspect not, but who knows?

Tremorchrist: i agree , big generalisation

CokeBear: Taliban dude on CNN

onthego: r the airports in europe effected?

griff: BA have suspended all flights indefinitely

griff: To and from the US

govert: Scandinavian airlines aren't flying to the US.

pixe: someone just said the USS washington and Kenndy are in the water ..

Trilobite: only flights in US are Air Force

dice: and where is don

CokeBear: pixe: yup, headed for New York

govert: swedish airports still open

socksey: all commercial us flights suspended

griff: Where else would they be pixe ?

Trilobite: flights heading to US, diverted to Canada

dice: and where is don

CokeBear: I'm in London, Ontario, and planes are headed here

govert: like we're in the hotspot :-)

CokeBear: 747s normally don't land here, but the runways are long enough

govert: Jerusalem airport closed

Trilobite: It's odd the only person who can fly in US is Bush, & he's the most useless one

govert: LOL!

Trilobite: not a joke

jag: probably better more time he spends in the air

Trilobite: he couldn't find NY on a map

griff: Takes him off the suspect list then

dorbel: a Bush in the air is worth two on the ground

pixe: I wanta throw up ..

Trilobite: I've been crying all morning

socksey: go to the bathroom pixe

govert: sure.

quine: glad aXi XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Honeygirl_ll: lews u ok?

lewscannon: fine. hg. thx

Trilobite: Bush called the terrorists "theFOLKS who did this"

socksey: hey lews...hg  :)

Honeygirl_ll: hi soxs

reima: NICE FOLKS indeed...

lewscannon: but i used to work in the wtc. a lot of people that i know are dead now :<

quine: i worked there until february

Honeygirl_ll: sorry lews

Tremorchrist: i'm sorry Lews

lewscannon: it's surreal

Trilobite: I've been there many times,& they had security you wouyldn't believe & fire drills, etc.

socksey: my sympathy lews  :(

patrija: i hope those firedrills helped to save many lives

lewscannon: i'm hoping some people made it, but.....

mpopj: how far from wtc is Square Garden ? My daughter knows someone who is there.

Tremorchrist: many did Lews 77th fl tower 1 , one example

Trilobite: I saw some jumping out of the upper stories on tv

quine: any rep[orts on whether there were bombs inside or not?XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  i wonder what caused all those secondary blasts

Mortsport: people were jumping out the windows trying to escape the fires behind them. what is worse, the fire, or the fall

quine: square garden is too far away to be in any danger

mpopj: thanks quine

lewscannon: i'm hearing that there were bombs, too

Trilobite: MSG is over 3 miles north

Trilobite: no bomb, just the planes

rpo: not bombs, just strutural damage

lewscannon: i'm hearing about bombs on the news, trilobite

Trilobite: there was a bomb in Washington, I believe

orko: there was a car bomb in washington, i heard.

MaddDogg: on the plus side we can now go on a wholesale killing spree of terrorists

Trilobite: not in NYC

Trilobite: should we start with the terrorists who stole the election?

Tremorchrist: could change the world Maddog

onthego: there is no plus side to this

quine: it isn't clear what could have caused the secondary explosions, trilobyte.  the towers don't have flammable materials inside.... 

lewscannon: yeah, in nyc. i'm watching the news here

MaddDogg: what an idiotic statement

dorbel: then why make it Maddog?

quine: not that would cause such an abrupt explosion... though of course the heat buildup could have cause a presure buildup

XXX: the planes were fully fueled for a cross country flight..that caused big explosions on impact..then there were gas leaks causing more explosions

Tremorchrist: aero fuel is serious shit!

mimbing: anyone for 3/5 ptr??

fourth waves goodbye.

govert: 3/5 anyone

Slampig: hello

govert: hello Slampig

govert: how is your corner of the world?

Slampig: mad as hell

govert: welcome :-(

Mooncan: petityoda is a dropper

Tremorchrist: seems irrelevant today

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: How many floors collapsed?

dorbel: good 'ol fibs, planes hitting buildings and they moan about droppers

Slampig: all of them

raindance: presumably all

pixe: both towers collapsed

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: unreal

raindance: well, it's been a long time since we've had war

socksey: lol@dorbel.....life goes on

Slampig: bin laden will pay

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: pretty tough to fight a war against this

raindance: perhaps not, this is the sort of event that can change the world

jag: thought theyd denied it

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: so you nail bin laden.... then someone else takes over

raindance: Oboe, this will be tracked down, probably we are now beyond conventional terrorist dealings as far as a US response

Tremorchrist: listening to initial state reactions i would be concerned if i lived in Afghanistan

coolpaula: heck.... i'd just GENERALLY be CONCERNED if i lived in Afganistan!

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: and you have to wonder how the terrorist will "top" this act?

Slampig: this would be like the US bombing the dome of the rock or Mecca, which should be considered

Oboe_Whan_Kenobe: whats next a mushroom cloud over LA or Paris?

Tremorchrist: they wont, here comes decades of big brother paranoia and hard lines

dorbel: WHAT Slampig is joking surely

coolpaula: and our govt gets all uppity about some poor afgani refugees

jasonj: The Latin Grammy's Have been postponed!!

Tremorchrist: yes coop , you think John will skulk home ?

pixe: baseball is postponed ..

Slampig: no i'm not joking

coolpaula: one hell of a barbeque for him!

dorbel: terrifying

Slampig: level iraq

Slampig: finish the job

jag: why? probably not them

pixe: its not them? who is was it?

dorbel: Jesus, and they wonder why anyone would bomb America

raindance: to all US citizens, please make a rendezvous point of contact with family, make sure u have plenty of cash on hand.  Godspeed

Mortsport: probably funded by lraq

dice: fbi is looking for don

Festful: don....Don King?

Slampig: just look what we did to japan

Slampig: someone will pay

onthego: a spiral of hate

Mortsport: 2400 lost at Pearl Harbor

suz: and a spiral of violence

dorbel: bombing is wrong, so lets bomb 'em to hell

raindance: Days like today may be seminal events in history, godspeed, godspeed

Patti: WOuld someone explain this to me please:  The Golden Gate Bridge is open to vehicles, but not to pedestrian traffic.

jag: its safer to drive in California than walk, thought everyone knew that

jasonj: that means you can drive across the bridge

socksey: maybe suicide breeds suicide....patti....

jasonj: but you can't walk across it.

raindance: 911

coolpaula: raindance,,, makin sense

Slampig: because it's the quickest way to get emergency services across the bay

Slampig: and evacuate people

Patti: But that's an argument for *closing* it-- then you have free access to it if you need it.

raindance: godspeed folks.  I need to go out and get some cash on hand.  May we see each other again sooner than later

dorbel: shut up raindance

socksey: thx cp  :)

silent: anyone for a one pointer?

Mortsport: all planes were bound for CA, meaning they all had maximum fuel

jasonj: yep

jasonj: genius....

jasonj: evil, super genius.

govert: no fools flew thge flanes... that's for sure...

jasonj: that's true.

govert: and i can't type...

Zorba: note how less than one year GW Bush brought the world in a terrible state

silent: Only the biggest fool could be that evil

pinksharkmark: this is unreal... reads like a Robert Ludlum novel

Zorba: Texas = oil and weapons

coolpaula: you got it Zorba!

Mortsport: they think the Pittsburgh plane was headed for the white house

SallyAW: better the white house than the twin towers.

jasonj: that would have been incredible....

jasonj: just amazing...

pinksharkmark: oh, come on, now. I am certainly no fan of Bush, byt he didn't cause this

SallyAW: the white house is just a symbol, not the offices of 10s of 1000s of people

SallyAW: bush wasn't in DC he was in florida, he wouldn'thave been hurt

jasonj: you don't think the WTC was a symbol?

Zorba: bush lack of action in the middle-east didn't cause it but certainly it plays a role..

pinksharkmark: actually, thousands of people DO work in the White House

Mortsport: this could be retaliation for USA's attack on lraq under the senior Bush's administration

Nashvilleman: Yeah, lack of getting rid of palestinians and Iraq years ago, that lack of action

pinksharkmark: no... timing is wrong. That terrorist in the first WTC bombing was due to be sentenced tomorrow

jag: violence breeds violence

Mooncan: I have had 3 people drop on me 3 times in a row now !

SallyAW: scarey using US commercial flights with lots of fuel.

Nashvilleman: not fully confronting violence breeds violence

govert: I won't drop. game?

pinksharkmark: agreed, Nash. Mad dogs need to be destroyed. Cancers need to be excised.

Zorba: but who's the mad dog

jasonj: mad dog.

pinksharkmark: too many of them, Zorba... that's the problem

Zorba: america also behaves like a mad dog in some countries..

pinksharkmark: Iraq, Palestine, Libya... Afghanistan...

jag: but why are these people so enraged with the us that they'd even contemplate such actions?

dorbel: yes, why?

pinksharkmark: religious fanatics don't need a reason

Tremorchrist: can you believe it, a god !

jag: everyone needs a reason

pinksharkmark: their reason is that America is The Great Satan

dorbel: a r4easonable point of view from som eplaces

Zorba: i think it's got nothing to do with religion, just with america being anti-arabic

CokeBear: There is *no* evidence that the perps are arabs. Remember Oklahoma?

Zorba: yeha but that guy is dead

pinksharkmark: depends which Arabs. America is certainly not anti-Saudi, or anti-Egypt

Mortsport: contempt is a very poor reason, but it is probably the underlying cause

pinksharkmark: this wasn't the act of a lone nutbar, CB. This took planning, and trememndous resources. It was a group of suicidal fanatics... hence religious fanatics

Mortsport: indeed

pinksharkmark: those planes were PILOTED. Kamikaze attacks, in every sense of the word.

Mortsport: middle east without a doubt

jag: but if you don't make the effort to understand what drives such people to such actions you're condemned to repeat

pinksharkmark: of course

CokeBear: It doesn't take much skill to fly a plane into a building. Hard part of flying is taking off and landing.

Zorba: right jag..

CokeBear: Each plane only needed one guy, with one small gun.

govert: flying under the radar....

CokeBear: Kill pilots, crash plane. Very simple plan

pinksharkmark: it takes a lot of planning to successfully hijack several planes simultaneously

Zorba: I wonder what MS-Flightsimulator's role in this whole thing is...

govert: flying off route.....

CokeBear: Blame Microsoft!

govert: hijacking WITHOUT the crew hitting the alarm button...

CokeBear: Shoot both from behind before they know whats going on.

CokeBear: pop pop

CokeBear: all done

govert: AND bust the door before that...

dorbel: its a terrible day for sure, but you cant you "kill the fanatics" guys get it?

Mortsport: bin laden owned aircraft to train kamikaze pilots for such an attack

Zorba: CB seems to have inside info...arrest him

CokeBear: Many pilots leave the door open

dorbel: cant you make the connection?

Tremorchrist: they'll find the black boxes, then we'll know

dorbel: rockets in baghdad?

govert: sure, but this is not a fool's action

CokeBear: Last time I flew, I visited the CP. Said hi to the captain

dorbel: rockets in Belgrade?

dorbel: America is a world terrorist

CokeBear: All you hear on the Black Boxes is "Bang, Bang", then nothing for several minutes, then crash

dorbel: this terrible thing is what follows

Tremorchrist: i bet the kamakhazis say more than that coke

govert: not these...

Zorba: anyway, time for a real president. Is there a way for new elections?

Mooncan: What does it mean when you play an unlimited match ?

Mortsport: no rating points

jag: it never ends, people use it to play for money

CokeBear: Of all the Presedential Candidates of the last 10 years, who would you most like to be running the country right now?

Mortsport: shut up cokebore

dice: Hillary

Zorba: :)

Tremorchrist: goodbye all, PEACE !

Honeygirl_ll: bye tc

suzi: Hi Zorba!

suzi: Hi Mort!

Zorba: I wish there would've been another president BEFORE this happened...

Zorba: hiya suzi! :)

Mortsport: hi suzi

pammie: Why is that

Mortsport: l think saddam has a hand in this

Zorba: bush has done virtually nothing about the situation in the ME

pammie: What does it matter what president is in office

govert: (pammie) he is the spokesperson of the country?

Zorba: israel in war with the palestinians, bush waves from his ranch and talks with his cowsz

pammie: well then you get of your ass and do something

Zorba: the guy is a complete nitwit

pammie: maybe But I don't believe He is going to stand by..

pammie: No one person can stop a war

Zorba: the damage is already done

pammie: all sides have to agree to stop

Zorba: I think buish should realize that you can't be world power #1 without taking your responsibilities WORLDwide

govert: so, HXXXer couldn't stop WW2 if he wanted?

pammie: He started it..

Zorba: well, Staling might have started it a little later...who knows

pammie: He wanted it to happen as with any war

govert: sure

Mortsport: war has been declared against the US. those responsible will be hunted down, hopefully with the help of the world community

jag: Mooncan, petityoda didn't drop on me

Zorba: and colonialism might also be called a world war

jag: but he has left the building

govert: maybe nobody can stop a war, but it is my firm belief that anybody can affect it.

pammie: I agree govert

pammie: unfourtantely wars will happen..

Zorba: yep...especially the head of the world power #1

jag: don't forget, many people think the Wests economic and political behaviour is a form of warfare

CokeBear: There is not a single commercial airplane in flight in the USA right now. This is unprecidented in Aviation history

pammie: but is it an excuse to kill thousands of innocent people

govert: GPL, the OTHER global threat to capitalizm

Zorba: Gnu Public Licesne? lol

pammie: just because I disagree with you about bush doesn't give Me license to go and shoot Zorba

govert: :)

jag: thousands of innocents died in almost every war last century

pammie: yes

Zorba: in the eyes of some other people, the USA also causes thousands of deaths.

pammie: you are right..

pammie: and I hate seeing that in other countries as well.

Zorba: the problem is that US politics <> USA's citizens

pammie: I take it you are not american Zorba

Zorba: right

pammie: what if it was in your country

pammie: it happened to your people

Zorba: my country is not a world power

pammie: innocent

govert: and, also in the eyes of others, the population growth in the US is the planet's largest resource problem...

jag: and the actions of a minority of fanatics <> those of every muslim or whatever

pammie: so

onthego: zorba wears i turbin

mimbing: anyone for 3/5 ptr??

pammie: So it could happen

jag: Sikhs wear turbans

govert: engineers wear turbines

Zorba: this wouldn't happen to a country that;s not a wolrd-power

pammie: Some person that holds a grudge against your country comes in and symatticay bombs  each major city in your country

Zorba: so I cant comment on it happening to the NL

pammie: It could happen Zorba

Zorba: this is not about a "grudge" against the USA

Zorba: this is about USA power play

pammie: I  don't know how you can be so cold about people dying .. it being a american or a turkish rebel

Zorba: I'm not cold, I'm discussing possible casues

pammie: but you are putting it all on the us though.. granted this country isnt perfect.. what country is.

govert: He isn't

Zorba: how many USA people mourned about the tens of thousands of victims in Iraq after Desert Storm?

Mortsport: ya know it's so easy to blame someone else, but if you do the crime you will pay

pammie: You would be surprised..

Zorba: I dont put it all on the USA. The terrorists are responsible

Zorba: I'm just analyzing USA's role in the world and if it might have something to do with this

govert: hmm. i wonder...

Zorba: :/

Mortsport: if you think the lraqi "population" was innocent in the kuwaiti takeover, you are saddly mistaken

Zorba: most Iraqi soldiers were as "innocent" as US soldiers

pammie: we as humans have responsbility for our actions

Mortsport: if they disagrred with saddams actions, there would of been an overthrow of his regime. and that never happened

govert: which of course goes for Germany as well...

Zorba: like "overtthrowing a regime" is so easy

Mortsport: nobody said it was

Zorba: so your argument doesnt hold then

Mortsport: but the attempt would of been supported

Zorba: even the USA couldnt kill Saddam

Mortsport: oh yes they could of

jag: not when the gov controls the media, the innocent people had no real understanding of the situation

Mortsport: schwartzkopf was that close

Mortsport: he would of had no problem at all

Mortsport: he was right there

Zorba: a whole lot of Iraqi soldiers surrendered.. says it all. Saddam is not supported, he's just a tyran

jag: would you risk your life, the lives of all your friends and family on the offchance that things may be better under a different regime?

Mortsport: Bush cancelled it

govert: whay are we doing? analyzing people's guilt in wars? get a grip...

Mortsport: LOL, they surrendered because they were beaten

Mortsport: who the hell is analizing guilt

Zorba: did the US soldiers in Vietnam do that as well then Mort?

govert: well, I think I was, at least. (trying to get a grip...)

onthego: they r prob dancing in the streets of kabul

pammie: sorry Zobra if I offened you..

Mortsport: guilt is having remorse for something you did wrong

Zorba: thinking Iraqi people are evil and against the USA, is just as stupid as Arabians calling the USA and it's citizens evil

pammie: IT isnt all the people though

pammie: it is the ones that can do those things that are.

Mortsport: zorba, it sounds like you're an lraqi sympathizer

Zorba: then read again mort

Alstrup waves goodbye.

Zorba: people of different countries aren't against each other, it's their leaders

govert: and the leaders play out the people against each other...

Mortsport: the USA is made up of people from different countries

Zorba: right... and sadly, they succeed with 75% of the people

govert: doesn't matter

Zorba: many people like the idea of simplifying the enemy

Zorba: it unites

pammie: to have a  belief is one thing but to use that belief to kill people is dead wrong

jag: dehumanisation its such a big word

jag: been around since richard the third

jag: human league

Mortsport: problems stem from other countries that DON'T have freedom for their populations

Zorba: all religions kill(ed) people

Mortsport: people gravitate to the USA to escape this

govert: please, leave the word religion out...

pammie: But it doesn't make it right.

govert: or let's say governmentally supported religion, and I agree, Zorba

jag: problems stem from countries (trying to) impose their viewpoints on other countries

Deer: Hiyas!

Zorba: sounds right jag..

Zorba: hi Deer!

dice: fbi is looking for don

Zorba: lol

Deer: Hey Zorbie :)

Mortsport: is freedom and democracy an imposition?

govert: tricky.

Deer: Im still waiting to hear if 4 relatives who work at WTC are alive

Zorba: how about the war on drugs...

Mortsport: l sincerely hope not

jag: it is if you don't believe democracy is the best form of government

jag: and freedom can be relative

Zorba: i'm sorry deer :(

govert: our heart's are with you, Deer

Deer: we're hopeful.... that they started late. 

pammie: and Prayers Hun..

Deer: Ahh this is the the slap in the face to get our attention, I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better

jag: hope you get the good news soon deer

TheIrishman: my sympathies to all in NY and the USA

Deer: Hiya TheIrish :)

TheIrishman: hi deer

pammie: I  don't have any family there and can never imagine if I did

Deer: thanks everyone, alot of our prayers go out to everyone, from all countries involved

Zorba: I second that, irishman

govert: amen

govert: what's the latest from the US?

Deer: I heard, 4 planes crashed, 4 still out there somewhere

Zorba: don claims attacks

pammie: I think they are all accounted for now Deer

Deer: ahh okay

pammie: I hope so anyway

Deer: conservative estimate of deaths in NYC is over 10,000

TheIrishman: did the other 4 land or crash?

Deer: I don't know

pammie: well those two buildings along held 50 thousand workers

Deer: that's true, but who knows when they all start their shifts

pammie: not counting the vistors

pammie: there were five planes in all

Deer: average day, estimated people in building... 150.000

pammie: two into the trade center

pammie: one in the Pentagon

Deer: two in WTC, one in Penta, one near Pittsburgh and one???

pammie:  and two others that crashed

Deer: ohhhhh :(

pammie: not sure where the other one was

Deer: okay so three unaccounted for, that were of the 8 hijacked this morning

dice: fbi is looking for don

jag: got to go and pick up gf from Heathrow, strangely her flight from nice was delayed

pammie: they said there was 8.. I missed that

Deer: Jag, thank god huh?

dice: fbi looking for nihi

Mortsport: dice, get a life

pammie: Well going to go and watch alittle more..

Deer: eek SHARK!!!

Zorba: cia looking for dice

Deer: pammie, let us know what's up?

pinksharkmark: oh, no! A scary deer!

pammie: Zorba am really sorry if I did offend You..

jag: best wishes to everyone

jag waves goodbye.

Deer: you too jag :)

govert: MI5 looking for Zorba

Zorba: you didn't pammie :) I'm not even sure what you're talkling about act. :-)

Zorba: KGB looking for new personnel

govert: and he scores.

Zorba: well...whatever happens...digestion goes on..time to fill the stomach, bye

Zorba waves goodbye.

govert: bye

Zorba: bye govert

Deer: Bye Zorba!

Mortsport: in Moscow, President Vladimir Putin sent a telegram to U.S. President George W. Bush. "Dear

CokeBear: "Dear...

CokeBear: ?

rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!

rolfmuller: BG for worldpeace!!!!!

LarryFerrier: Boy, that's hilarious

rolfmuller: no more war!!!

Mortsport: war has already been waged against american civilians

Mortsport: sadly

rolfmuller: sure, and I'm feeling very sad about it

rolfmuller: but striking back will not bring back lives

Roll_N: It may save future lives

LarryFerrier: too bad one of those airliners didn't hit your house, rolf

Mortsport: but it could save lives in the future, by saying this WILL NOT be tolerated

TheIrishman: bbc are saying 4 planes - abc and cnn saying 8 - who is right?

Mortsport: 4

TheIrishman: k

rolfmuller: force were never a permanent solution

Mortsport: 2 at wtc, 1 at pentagon, and last 1 crashed in pittsburgh, presumably headed for the white house

rolfmuller: I repeat, I'm feeling very sad about all the lives that have been taken away by this way...

LarryFerrier: rolf,if the airliner had killed your family, i'll bet you wouldn't be talking out of your ass

Mortsport: easy now

SallyAW: freaky using commercial planes for this...

CokeBear: Iraq

LarryFerrier: Canada

SallyAW: canada?

LarryFerrier: they are jealous

rolfmuller: I'm against violence at all

Mortsport: indeed

Roll_N: I have a feeling someone is gonna find out that when you pull the dogs tail you usually get bit

SallyAW: Blame canada

rolfmuller: even if it would have killed me familiy

Mortsport: heaven forbid, enough is enough

rolfmuller: no live taken away would bring back a family member

rolfmuller: with violence

SallyAW: gg

Roll_N: so what are you saying, whoever is responsible should get a time out ? 

mimbing: 3/5 ptr ???

LarryFerrier: lol, RollN

LarryFerrier: bad, bad, boys...you hijacked airliners

rolfmuller: what I'm saying is, that this shit in the far east needs a permant a definit solution, no more victims for both side!!!!!

LarryFerrier: thanks, rolf...go back to sleep now

SallyAW: how do you stop all this racial and religious zealousness

SallyAW: on both sides,

Mortsport: you don't see religious strife in the US, therefore it is somewhat hard to comprehend

LarryFerrier: somewhat?

rolfmuller: I'm from switzerland, but I'm living in a country, where you find an arabian, a jude, a budist, a catolic, a black and a white person lives in the same building and everybody tolerates each other and each others ideas and reliogions

Patrice_France: Looks more like Wako or Oklahoma city than religious war !

LarryFerrier: huh?

TheIrishman: I agree Patrice

rolfmuller: we need god, and not religion, when a religion use force, the primar rule is not compreended: love

LarryFerrier: last time I checked, there are explosions in religious wars

rolfmuller: don't mind wich religion

Mortsport: l think they will find this to be an islamic attack

Patrice_France: Too technologic, looks like a sect or a KKK's act.

LarryFerrier: hey, rolf the genius, why don't you try to explain your theory to these nuts

mimbing: anyone for a 3-5 ptr???

SallyAW: the religious leaders are not going to give up their power

SallyAW: you can never stop people for hating.

SallyAW: from hating. people will always hate and kill

Patrice_France: America fighting america ?

Mortsport: seems to me islams think their religion is the only religion that counts in this world

LarryFerrier: Patrice, are you high?

grillbill: all religions do that mort

grillbill: at some point in their development

Mortsport: yet, if they are the ones responsible, they have no respect for human life

Patrice_France: Only1493.11

Mortsport: not all grillbill

LarryFerrier: those Buddhists love blowing shit up

grillbill: oh? I think so.. christianity did it once

grillbill: remember the crusades?

Mortsport: and then we evolve

rolfmuller: see? god instead of religion is the only solution....look at Belfast, both side are crazy!!!

grillbill: it's part of an evolution only problem is they are evolving in a climate of automtic weapons and mass terrorism

Mortsport: yes

rolfmuller: that's why I say, that war is not the solution, grillbill, they are fanatic and won't hesitate to make use from this weapons

rolfmuller: they have less to loose than we

LarryFerrier: so we should sit back and take it, eh, rolfy?

rolfmuller: they belive, that they are going to paradise, if they die in a war or in an act of terrorism

Mortsport: the world will change it's views on terrorism after today and sweeping worldwide changes will be felt

rolfmuller: Larry, do you have family, right?

grillbill: could forse the american hand in terms of counter terrorism around the world though

LarryFerrier: answer my question first, rolfy

rolfmuller: do you think, that if one more member of your family is dying in war, you gonna be happier? even if he hits 10 arabians first?

LarryFerrier: answer my question first

rolfmuller: I did

rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!

LarryFerrier: no you didn't

rolfmuller: violence is not a defintiv solution

rolfmuller: american soldier did die in Irak too....

LarryFerrier: and?

rolfmuller: there is no winner in a war

LarryFerrier: is Iraq as much of a threat?

rolfmuller: if you loose a child in a war, there is no reason that makes it good for it

LarryFerrier: you ignore human nature

rolfmuller: sorry, I didn't understand

Roll_N: I think alot of people would consider that there was a winner in World War 2...  for the good of all humanity

Roll_N: and WW1

rolfmuller: ok, but how many loser did you had? see the pictures of holocaust

grillbill: 'blessed are the victors for they shall be called peacemakers'

LarryFerrier: you can't let fanatics skip and dance around the world

jasonj: blessed are the pacemakers

LarryFerrier: gerry and the pacemakers?

Mortsport: war doesn't determine who's right, war determines who's left. and freedom and democracy will ALWAYS prevail

rolfmuller: I agree, but you won't teach them with force

LarryFerrier: oh, ok, rolfy, let's teach them with candy and dog biscuits

Mortsport: let's remember this is a terrorist act

LarryFerrier: sit...roll over...

Mortsport: a cowardly terrorist act

grillbill: hopefully america will act on it

LarryFerrier: bad doggy

Mortsport: the world will act on it

rolfmuller: yes it was covard

LarryFerrier: look up the word "ignorant" in your dictionary, rolfy

rolfmuller: all the nations need to be together in this moment and punish who needs to be punished

simpsons: agree

LarryFerrier: how should we punish them? how about tickling?

grillbill: eyes are being opened as to america's role in the world

simpsons: A-bomb

LarryFerrier: how should we punish them, rolf?

Mortsport: l don't think the abomb will ever be used again

jasonj: I think it will be used tonight.

LarryFerrier: maybe you should look up "Ignorant" as well, Mort

LarryFerrier: pull your head out of the sand

Mortsport: so what are YOU saying Larry?

LarryFerrier: we're lucky they didn't use nukes instead of airliners, genius

LarryFerrier: you think they nutcases won't figure it out?

LarryFerrier: these

rolfmuller: sorry, got desconnected

rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!

LarryFerrier: that's ok rolf...we didn't miss you

rolfmuller: ok, sorry, for having another opinion

grillbill: what's ur opinion rolf?

rolfmuller: about? I was desconnected

grillbill: about all of this

LarryFerrier: so how should these psychos be punished?

rolfmuller: I think it's crazy, what they have done

LarryFerrier: sooooooooo....?

LarryFerrier: how should they be punished?

rolfmuller: and I think it's crazy to start a war

LarryFerrier: answer the question

vegasvic: Fu them

vegasvic: take them out

vegasvic: sandam

vegasvic: ben laden

Mortsport: the war has already been started

vegasvic: take them out

grillbill: hmm

jasonj: Uncle Ben Laden's Converted Rice

vegasvic: i live in the village

vegasvic: when you see it live

vegasvic: coming down

LarryFerrier: rolf,answer the question

vegasvic: you get the idea

vegasvic: of the lives in there

TheIrishman: hi peachy

peachy: Hi there Irishman!!! :^) Good Evening!!! :^)

peachy: Hey there Mortsport!! :^)

rolfmuller: the first question to answer is: punish who? till this moment, nobody have taken the responsabilities

rolfmuller: all arabians?

LarryFerrier: you are useless

rolfmuller: afganistan?

Mortsport: this is easily the most single catastrophic act of violence against the US in it's history

vegasvic: ben laden has

Mortsport: hi peachy

vegasvic: for 3 weeks he has been saying it

peachy: I agree mortsport!!!

vegasvic: and we here in new york were going too sentance his guys

vegasvic: for the first trade boming

LarryFerrier: okay, rolfy...let's say they fgure out exactly who did it

rolfmuller: maybe I am, but tell who do you want to punish, larry?

vegasvic: so one doesnt have to look far

Mortsport: 2400 died in pearl harbor, this will far surpass that

LarryFerrier: how should they be punished?

vegasvic: 10000 in one of thoes building

Mortsport: 266 died in the plane crashes

vegasvic: look i live here

grillbill: they worked out in the 93 bombing that it took people about 3 hours to get out.. they didn't get that much time this time

peachy: I dare say the estimates are very low at this point...

vegasvic: its 1/4 of a mile from my house

vegasvic: there were 1000's

grillbill: some may not have realised what was going on for a while

vegasvic: coming out

vegasvic: and 1000's trying to help

vegasvic: and the buildiigs came down

grillbill: they employ 50,000 there with 90,000 visitors

LarryFerrier: Rolfy, you have no answer

vegasvic: you look at oklahoma

peachy: Hi there jason!!! :^)

jasonj: Yo, Peachy....

vegasvic: and see that

vegasvic: take it up a notch

vegasvic: not pearl arbor nothing is close

vegasvic: to this one

vegasvic: when its over

rolfmuller: I never said, that I have the answers, larry

BennyTheDip: any news on these other planes in the air????????

peachy: no - it is soooo sad vegasvic...

LarryFerrier: you also have no spine

vegasvic: we have f16 in arond manhattan

rolfmuller: but I DO know, that violence makes grow more violence

vegasvic: i was looking up knowing no planes were in the air

vegasvic: but its f15 and 16 flying

Mortsport: there is NO inbetween on this

rolfmuller: spine? don't understand

jasonj: amazing that you have electric and all, vegasvic

vegasvic: moselms

vegasvic: belive in

phs: veg - where are you?

vegasvic: eye for and eye

vegasvic: they cut of the hand that steals

vegasvic: now time

peachy: Hey there phs - good to see you here this afternoon!!! :^)

phs: anyone on fibs in lower manhattan?

vegasvic: i live in lower manhaten in the village west sdie

vegasvic: i am 1/4 of a mile up from the towers

vegasvic: i bike next to it every day along the river

phs: wow - are you gibing us news reports?

vegasvic: to see them com edown

vegasvic: like it did

phs: you saw it?

BennyTheDip: gibing is an unforntunate mistake

vegasvic: all you could do is sit on the side walk and cry

leda: must be awfull

vegasvic: just the humanity

phs: oh - I've made much worse mistakes :) gibing is... mild

BennyTheDip: fair enough phs

vegasvic: brb

grillbill: don't rush

rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!

grillbill: irony was that the mayor's disaster centre was based on the 56th floor of one of the towers

Repugnist: I don't have adequate words to describe the horror i feel at your tradgedy. I'm 3000 miles away in England - my partner is in tears. GL to all-  especiallty NY'kers. May we keep this community free from prejudice and blame. it,s these new communitys that may strike a new better world order.

peachy: Nicely said Repugnist!!! thanks :^)

rolfmuller: Good luck from Rio de Janeiro!

phs: lewscannon - tell us about NYC now

lewscannon: we're kinda stunned

peachy: Hi there lews :^) Good to see you!!!

lewscannon: hi peachy

lewscannon: everyone's stocked up on food and water

lewscannon: you expect to see this kind of stuff in a schwartzenegger movie, not in real life

phs: did you see anything?

peachy: True - so true lews!!!

lewscannon: i'm too far uptown, but my wife saw the towers collapse from her office

Steve_Carey: they dont even want to play football this next weekend :(

peachy: WOW - that's closer than I would want to be lews...

lewscannon: she's midtown. you couldn't miss it from any high building

peachy: Hi there socksey!!!

phs: what do people think the USA will do now?

peachy: there are so many things to do phs....

lewscannon: i think george bush is going to try to attack new zealand

phs: lol lews - astute politacl analysis :)

lewscannon: he's pretty sure that it's next to belgium

Steve_Carey: what sucks is 10s of thousands of americans died in a cowardly senseless act of desperation

javiator: and we see it all fold out live on TV -startling..

peachy: True - so true Steve...

HomerJ waves goodbye.

Aveboo: Greetings and support to the people of the USA... God bless you !

Aveboo: and hi to all.

CokeBear: God? Fuck God! Religion is what causes crap like this! Damn religious fanatics!

peachy: Thanks Aveboo!! :^)

Repugnist: true CB - but don't dismiss the sentiment

phs: where are you Aveboo?

Aveboo: I agree too, but some pax believe in it and its a relief for them, so fuck u!

Aveboo: Belgium, Brussels

phs: well - thank you for your sentiments :)

CokeBear: The world would be a whole lot better off if there were no religion

gba:  second that

peachy: Cokebear - for once -- please just drop it for now!!!!!!

javiator: say rather the world would be a better place without hate --TOLERANCE!

Repugnist: hear hear j

socksey: hugs for everyone

Repugnist: f*** hugs for everyone - i'm not THAT tolerant!

peachy: hehe - well I appreciated that socksey

CokeBear: No hugs for Osama bin Laden. He can eat USian Nuke now.

aki: one pointe anyone?

aki: hi alkan

lea: Who wants to play?

lea: I want to play!

lea: Hello everyone!

lea: Bye everyone!

lea: It's very quiet here.

socksey: lea you are refusing games

Aveboo: we r looking at u...

CokeBear: Its very quiet everywhere in the world today

Aveboo: not in the US, actualy...

peachy: depends on where in the US you are....

Aveboo: correct!

pixe: not quiet here .. they just said on the local radio dont bother going to the grocery store the shelves are empty .. people are panicing

CokeBear: oh shit...

CokeBear: so it begins...

peachy: Where are ya pixe???

pixe: NJ .. about 45 mins from NYC

peachy: OK- here it is not like that - but I'm over 500 miles from NYC (but still in NY)

aki: only ten minutes by plane pixie!  ;-)

lea: Hello everyone!

lea: It's very quiet here.

pixe: thank you aki .. :-P

CokeBear: Interesting: Secret Service wants to keep Bush in Nebraska, Political aides want him back in the White House

rpo: i think the plane that went down in PA was destined for the white house...

peachy: I think it's more typical than interesting Cokebear - since when does teh gov't agree??

silent: Bush caused the war I think with all his talk of nuclear superiority

aki: coke, i want him back in texas!

GreekPJ: Bush is great!

GreekPJ: Clinton is the cause of all this

Mikey: silent, that is 100% crap

silent: Prepare for war and you get it. Bush brought it on

silent: I guess now he will have to work instead of loafing around

aki: war against whom?

Mikey: if you were in touch with reality . . .

Aveboo: Bush must be thinking; "shit! why izit all hapening to me..."

peachy: My condolences to all affected by this...  bye bye

Aveboo: bye peach

silent: The poor families

socksey: ciao peach

aki: god shave the queen

silent: join _kef

_kef: god bless to all

lewscannon: apparently the plane that went down in pa was destined for camp david, bush's summer home

aki: in which state is camp david?

lewscannon: maryland

endellRio waves goodbye.

aki: hmm, then osama gave him wrong instructions?

aki: pa is way off maryland..

javiator: i heard all planes were bound for california ie: fully fueled

TheIrishman: hi

Aveboo: Osaman aimed at symbols...

aki: osama killed the artist formely known as prince?  ;-)

Aveboo: I bet he didnt even expect the towers to collapse...

Streetgang: someone 3/5/7

FordPrefect: my heartfelt condolences to all american players, i hope nobody of you had casualties

lewscannon: thx, ford

HunnyB: hi Lews!!

alkan: who is up for a 5

lewscannon: hi hun

TheIrishman: gg

lewscannon: it's gonna be so strange to see the manhattan skyline without those towers

Scorpion_: 3?

tom: any New Yorkeans here?  I 'D like to express my deepest pity

lewscannon: thx, tom

Steve_Carey: thought maybe Iraq might be behind the incidents

tom: I dont hear anything about the crasj  crash in Pennsylvania .. did the air force shoot this plane?

Mortsport: no

Mortsport: chances are the crew thwarted the attempt

TheIrishman: cbs are reporting 2 other crashes - does anyone know where these were - or if confirmed

Steve_Carey: the Pentigon

tom: lews why did it take so long to get a statement from the President?

TheIrishman: in addition to pentagon and wtc 2

Scorpion_: someone had to write his speech

raindance: nbc is reporting Usama Bin Laden is the culprit

maria: I am not a violent person, but I hope whoever is responsible for this atrocities suffers and burns in hell for eternity.

fond: countries feeding terrorists many ways... one `s terrorist being freedom fighter for others... what happened today was the biggest in world terror history. and i believe this was an attack to humanity. 

fond:  and many countries were supporting this till now. so everyone is responsable for that. i am so sorry for a

fond: all

Johnm: would some one like a game

raindance: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

Steve_Carey: scary thing is   it may not be over with

cc_drug: Did all of you not go in to work today?

lapin: game anyone ?

raindance: in one way or another it won't be; we'll either hunt him down or go to war to get him

lapin: has there been some news about who ?

Steve_Carey: God only knows whats next           how much more are we americansd going to be subjected to

raindance: nbc reports Bin Laden

lapin: nbc ?

lapin: doesn't sound authoritative

tom: be he officially declined

Dutchie: hi (again) all!

nilla: Hi Dutchie  :))

bluebeard: Duchie! is your gf ok?

cc_drug: Is it true they suspect LA to be next?

raindance: lapin, yes, it sounds authoratative

Dutchie: yep, bluebeard... got a phone call from her around 1pm edt... she was on the 13th floor, instead of in her office, at the 53rd...

lapin: news channels like to do that - don't trust them

bluebeard: that's a relief

Dutchie: yep, bluebeard, it is... i am still very down though... and worried about a few other friends and acquaintances of mine, that work(ed) there...

raindance: lapin, no, this wasn't your typical

lapin: i guess we find out soon enough

raindance: yes, in fact they've been holding out, but that's the word on the new service wires

suzi: Jane!!!!!!!!!

jane_t: suzi long time no see how r u ????

Steve_Carey: Congress is to get together on the steps of the capitol building to express their support for the president

raindance: support of America

lapin: i appreciate the act happened in the USA

lapin: but this affects ALL of us now

raindance: I have this tremendous sense that he (if it's him) will not live long, nor have freedom long

Johnm: anyone for 3 point pls

Steve_Carey: a news conference at 7:00pmEDT  and holding a session of congress tomorrow to pass support measures           perhaps war

cc_drug: any word on the other two stray planes?????

raindance: Steve, where are you hearing that information?

Steve_Carey: CBS news

Biggles: a sad day.......

Biggles: I hope Cokebear is finally happy.....he finally got what he's been asking for.....

socksey: what do you mean biggles?

Bob: 1/3/5/7/9 pointer please

Biggles: all Cokebear has done since day 1 is attack America, and tell us we were going to get it from Ben Laden.......so I hope he's now finally happy

Mortsport: cokebores already used up his inane comment allotment for the day

Biggles: what's his take Mort.....probably "I told ya so".....

Mortsport: no

Mortsport: just stupid insensitive remarks

socksey: cokebear would never wish us this

Biggles: right.......he's the biggest jerk I've ever heard......

Mortsport: but he did say bin laden should eat the nuke

Biggles: he did?  why would he want his biggest buddy to take a fall?

raindance: here's a link to fbi's page on bin laden

raindance: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

socksey: be kind to your enemies......it will blow their minds  :)

Mortsport: l've heard support here from all countries, except for cokebore

Dutchie: i have to admit one thing about cokebear... when he heard that my gf was in there, he was one of the first to wish me strength...

Biggles: your gf might have died?

raindance: indeed, socksey, the kindest thing to do is to take out bin laden, many human lives will be saved that way

socksey: see......saying things here in defense of oneself means nothing when the chips are down

Mortsport: Afghanistan is hiding bin laden

Biggles: Dutchie....what's the story on your gf?

Dutchie: she got out, Biggles... i heard from her at about 1pm EDT... but those four hours waiting were the hardest hours of my life!

Mortsport: another building did collapse

Biggles: thank god.....im glad for you

Dutchie: thanks Biggles!

Mortsport: building 7 next to the wtc

raindance: Godspeed to you Dutchie

Dutchie: thx!

Mortsport: still another couple buildings in danger of collapsing

Biggles: they just showed the 3rd building collapsing

raindance: it's horrifying to think of, but the death toll may be in the tens of thousands

Mortsport: it's amazing the topple effect didn't take down more

Mortsport: but it's like both wtc buildings imploded

StoneTiger: i don't think those things have the structural integrety to go down in one peice after you knock out a significant hole

Biggles: did you just see that last video?

Mortsport: l've sen it all, what a nightmare

StoneTiger: sorry, no tv here

bluebeard: StoneTiger: apparently it was the subsequent fire that waekened the structures

HumanIAm: 5 pt match anyone?

Johnm: johnm will

Soldier: anyone for 5??

StoneTiger: sounds plausible, I'm not a civil engineer or anything

Mortsport: there are palastinian celebrations going on

raindance: nbc now says new information leads US officials to be 90% sure Bin Laden is behind all of this

JCoyne: whichever country is harboring bin laden pays the price

aki: the same officials who did not know anything just hours agol....

JCoyne: a very LARGE price

javiator: hes in New Zealand..

HumanIAm: the 'large price' is the same as the reason we have these attacks in the first place

suzi waves goodbye.

peachy: Hoi Dutchie!! :^)

aki: javietor, no he is in norfolk

peachy: Hi again Mortsport!! :^)

Dutchie: hi peachy! :)

aki: he runs fish and chips shop there

peachy: Hi ya JC :^)

javiator: Kings Lynn?

JCoyne: hey peachy

peachy: Hi again socksey!! :^)

peachy: Hey there Irishman!!! :^)

TheIrishman: hi peachy

oldovercoat: raindance, are you there?

CokeBear: People are thinking this was some big, expensive operation, but it might have only been 4 people: one on each plane, with a gun, or even a knife

HumanIAm: what difference does that make, Cokebear?

oldovercoat: how does one man with a knife hold 90 people + crew hostage and force them to crash a plane? no way

CokeBear: USA is planning to seek revenge, but the perps are already dead.

CokeBear: (You've never been a hostage, have you?)

HumanIAm: the US will kill lots and lots of people in REVENGE - just like always - nothing changes - dead is dead and makes more dead

oldovercoat: 97:1 ? c'mon

CokeBear: Once the terrorist kills one person, everyone is thinking "That could have been me"

pRICK: U.S. should stop supporting the Isreali terrorists

mdreier: US should stop _training_ Bin-Ladens

pRICK: and Sharons

javiator: the palestinians celebrating is a very disturbing site...  but I sympathise -they have to put up with American helicopters and jets blowing up thier buildings and people...

pRICK: yup

HumanIAm: indoctrination happens on all sides - no real differences there

pRICK: bulldozers destroying their homes

pRICK: except they are usually the ones dying

raindance: Arafat condemned it

Mortsport: hey prick, don't you ever think they bring it on themselves

pRICK: right

Dutchie: bonjour Eve!!! :)

TheIrishman: bon soir maman

maman_Eve: bonjour Dutchie

maman_Eve: bonsoir irishman

Dutchie: i was doubting whether or not to put "bon" in there...

javiator: would you msay the same of Americans??

Mortsport: the rest of the world is trying to become civilized, what the hell is their problem?

Yosemite_Sam: not very good today

pRICK: they should just give up their own land and country so the Isrealis can live in peace

mdreier: they are being bomberd into the stone ages - that is thir problem

CokeBear: USA is attacking Afganistan!

pRICK: why don't they jump in the ocean, Mortsport?

Yosemite_Sam: where do you come from pRick

Mortsport: the have been at war for THOUSANDS of years. what in gods name is their problem?????????

fatboyandy: What can i say about the news? I fear for peace everywhere

pRICK: chicago

Yosemite_Sam: why are trying to justify what happened?

HumanIAm: gotta go

HumanIAm: thanks

mdreier: Wow - the US is bombing Kabul

pRICK: their problem, Mortsport, is that the Isrealis have stolen their land - this has only been happening this century

fond: what?!!

Mortsport: where do you see this mdreier?

mdreier: cnn

fatboyandy: is there a source on that ?

Yosemite_Sam: who said that?

maman_Eve: this is a terribly sad day for everyone

Mortsport: the problem is prick, that they have been warring over land for THOUSAND